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Dave Meltzer's favorite. You can't argue with his 'legendary' status. Did well in the US and Japan. Perhaps his legend grew with and because of his death.

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I liked watching him. I really enjoyed watching World Class when he was a total ass kicker and would go after Akbar, then flip over to ESPN and see him working with Al-Kaisee. It didn’t make sense but was still interesting to process when they still were trying to keep kayfabe. About ten or so years ago they released DVDs from St Louis, and one had a Flair-Brody Broadway from the Checkerdome. I had not yet seen any of Brody’s Japan work except for if they showed pieces on US tv to reintroduce him to the audience. I was surprised with how well he worked with Flair - he must’ve liked or respected Ric, because he worked a great match and most likely got a very fat envelope that night. His only real fuckup in my opinion was that he went to World Class and over a year became Red River Jack, when he could’ve gone to the WWF for really big money and done a problem with Hogan. As much as Brody liked Japan and the money he made there, he would have made legit, life changing money just off of the action figures and ice cream bars...and wouldn’t have had to make a couple grand in Puerto Rico and end up dying in a corrupt hospital.

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One of the best imo. One of my top five ever. He had the mystique...Most of my favorite wrestlers are the ones that had that mystique.

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He had the "it factor" and drew wherever he went. That's enough for me.

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Had he lived, his legend would be that of a difficult to work with journeyman brawler. I don't think he would be held in the high regard he's held in without his tragic end. Not saying he doesn't deserve to be, just saying it certainly raises his stature.

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Not a fan. He certainly had "it" but his refusal to sell makes his matches largely unwatchable for me. He'd be in a tag match in Japan, getting worked over and he's just shrugging things off, then he'll tag out and stand on the apron like nothing happened. Steamboat/Kobashi he wasn't.

I think martini nailed it. He was a journeyman brawler who could be difficult to work with. His death endowed him with a great mystique than he'd legitimately earned.

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His death helped his " Legend" status. Enjoyed his team with Hansen ( my favorite) and he always worked hard in Japan. Burned WAY too many bridges along the way and his stabbing was the cause of it.

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martini wrote: Had he lived, his legend would be that of a difficult to work with journeyman brawler. I don't think he would be held in the high regard he's held in without his tragic end. Not saying he doesn't deserve to be, just saying it certainly raises his stature.
He was held in high regard before he died.

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Since about 95% of his matches always devolved into outside the ring, into the crowd, tossing chairs, etc., he wasn't a favorite of mine. I prefer the in-ring action instead. I won't deny he had a lot of charisma and his death does leave him with a mystique like was posted earlier.

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KGB wrote: Not a fan. He certainly had "it" but his refusal to sell makes his matches largely unwatchable for me. He'd be in a tag match in Japan, getting worked over and he's just shrugging things off, then he'll tag out and stand on the apron like nothing happened. Steamboat/Kobashi he wasn't.

I think martini nailed it. He was a journeyman brawler who could be difficult to work with. His death endowed him with a great mystique than he'd legitimately earned.

This. Martini nailed it...

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I had just turned 11 when he was murdered and didn't even have cable yet, so I never saw any of him in context.  I only read about him in the Apter mags when he was alive, and I was probably a teenager before I saw his first matches on tape.  It's hard to evaluate someone that way, but I was a fan.  Awesome look, great brawler, hardcore pioneer, could also wrestle, and was an agile big man before that really existed (with the possible exception of Don Leo Jonathan).  His influence is obvious when you look at the guys who blatantly ripped him off.  I had no idea that Jim Duggan took his entire schtick and every single mannerism until the 90s.  But his murder obviously added to the mystique a lot.  If he had lived and we had seen him battling Abdullah the Butcher in the early days of Eastern Championship Wrestling in front of 300 fans, which he certainly would've done, it wouldn't be the same.    

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I just thought that in general (painting with a wide brush) his matches were pretty bad

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In the years before Bruiser Brody's death and in the decade or so afterwards, he was held in such high regard by insider fans that he got overrated. Then around 2002 or 2003 a backlash started and got so heated that it turned the other way. Brody is actually underrated now.

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tamalie wrote: In the years before Bruiser Brody's death and in the decade or so afterwards, he was held in such high regard by insider fans that he got overrated. Then around 2002 or 2003 a backlash started and got so heated that it turned the other way. Brody is actually underrated now.
I think as we got more into a SJW world, the ideas of victims and aggressors flipped.  Invader I was so reviled for so many years as a murderer who got away with it due to a corrupt system, and then all of a sudden Brody came under fire for bullying Invader I so intensely for so long that that he got what he deserved.  They're both probably just assholes.

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I take the minority view. I thought Brody was fantastic. What some forget is that what he did was fairly unique in the day. He was an elite performer and totally sold the gimmick. I am old enough to recall his 1975 WWWF run. He and Bulldog Brower did the same basic things but Brody did it 1000x better.

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His WWWF run was fairly uninteresting believe it or not. Luckily Sammartino took a liking to him and they had decent matches considering the participants. But he wasn't any more over than guys like Duncum, Hansen, or Blackwell.

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He was no Stan Hansen.

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I first saw Brody in the WWA for Dick the Bruiser and he really scared me.

He was very nice to me when I saw him at a Windy City Pro Wrestling show at the International Amphitheatre in Chicago. He signed an autograph for me and posed for a crazy cross-eyed photo. I only regret that there were no selfies in those days so I could pose with him.

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No matter the reputation he had, Brody never lacked for work. I think that was the ultimate tribute to him while he lived; has was a consistent draw across the US and internationally.

His tragic end, of course added to his legend.

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Married Jo wrote: KGB wrote: Not a fan. He certainly had "it" but his refusal to sell makes his matches largely unwatchable for me. He'd be in a tag match in Japan, getting worked over and he's just shrugging things off, then he'll tag out and stand on the apron like nothing happened. Steamboat/Kobashi he wasn't.

I think martini nailed it. He was a journeyman brawler who could be difficult to work with. His death endowed him with a great mystique than he'd legitimately earned.

This. Martini nailed it...

Or Brody could have put on a helluva show vs. Hogan at one of the early Wrestlemania's had he lived. Brody vs Savage, Brody Vs Piper; VKM would have loved him, simply because he was a draw.


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Was never a fan, but it would’ve been cool to see him in 80s WWF and 90s ECW.

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Quattro wrote: He was no Stan Hansen.I also think Stan Hansen was better.  A better wrestler and a more believable character.  As a kid, I thought Brody was acting crazy.  I thought Hansen was legit crazy.  That's a BIG difference.

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BItterOldMan wrote: Or Brody could have put on a helluva show vs. Hogan at one of the early Wrestlemania's had he lived. Brody vs Savage, Brody Vs Piper; VKM would have loved him, simply because he was a draw. And Brody would have loved VKM because of his pay envelope.  Everybody used to say that Andre had no problem jobbing if the pay was worth it.  Brody would have been exactly the same.  Spend 9 months chasing Hogan on TV, while having house show matches with him (the way that Savage did at the beginning), and then when they were comfortable with their plan, they unleash Brody on Hogan on TV - it leads to a SNME and then Wrestlemania.  Hell, you have to believe that Hogan-Brody at Wrestlemania 2 would have made that card successful.  He could have even come back and headlined Wrestlemania 5 with Hogan after becoming his friend a la the "Mega Powers".  And come to think of it, had Brody been there, who knows if Vince puts Savage up to main event level?  I think Savage was so good and so over he would've taken the spot himself, but it's still something to think about.

With all of that said, I really thought that they would bring in Stan Hansen to headline with Hogan in '89, especially after he appeared in No Holds Barred.  For that, I was expecting Jos LeDuc as well, but I think he was about done by that time.

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Superstar wrote: Quattro wrote: He was no Stan Hansen.I also think Stan Hansen was better.  A better wrestler and a more believable character.  As a kid, I thought Brody was acting crazy.  I thought Hansen was legit crazy.  That's a BIG difference.

I recommend reading Hansen's book. A lot on Brody.

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I dont think Brody would have lasted long enough in the WWF to have many feuds. He was too difficult and his act would have worn thin. He was one of those wrestlers who was much better in small doses. Come in have a Hogan feud and then bye bye.  Like Abdullah and others.

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Spatulapup wrote: I dont think Brody would have lasted long enough in the WWF to have many feuds. He was too difficult and his act would have worn thin. He was one of those wrestlers who was much better in small doses. Come in have a Hogan feud and then bye bye.  Like Abdullah and others.
This is what I was thinking. They needed to have Hogan vs. Brody at WM II. That was the money match at the right time with nothing else better (Bundy was an uninspired choice). But after that payday, Brody would’ve needed to move on. There would’ve been no other big feud. 

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If he had ended up in the WWF and he likely would have, he'd be remembered like that tough Samoan or Earthquake. Either way, he'd be a main event job guy.



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