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Rock stars never retire so most of the ones who died young would still be out there today, for better or worse, if they were still alive.  Here's a few.

Jimi Hendrix (77) - Might be a stretch to say he'd still be able to perform but the Stones are still going strong.  I could see Hendrix make the occasional appearance on one of Eric Clapton's guitar hero shows.  I think he would've had a big revival in the mid-'90s, maybe sparked by the 25th anniversary of Woodstock, a last hurrah selling out arenas before slowing down.

Janis Joplin (75) - She'd be a special guest on Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill 25th Anniversary Tour this summer.  After a period of disappearance and rehab stints in the late '70s and '80s, I could see her re-emerging as an elder stateswoman of "Girl Power", consistently headlining mid-sized venues through the '90s and early 2000s and opening for everyone from Melissa Etheridge to Halestorm over the years.  

Jim Morrison (76) - The Doors would've remained popular until the late '70s and then broken up.  Morrison would've had some solo albums/tours, but nothing matching his previous success.  He'd stay in Europe and write poetry and books for a while and mostly disappear.  There would be the inevitable reunion tour in the '90s, which would do decent business.  He'd fade away again and have some high profile incidents wjere he's caught ranting on TMZ about something or another.

Freddie Mercury (73) - After falling out of favor in the '90s and doing intimate solo shows, there would be a HUGE Queen reunion and tour in the early 2000s that would sell out stadiums again.  They'd break up again and right about now would be planning on big retirement tour that would likely sell out arenas around the world through 2021.  We know how popular Queen still is with Adam Lambert, so just imagine if Mercury was still here.

Kurt Cobain (52) - Nirvana would've continued to be huge until about 1997 or so, when other acts that they influenced slowly started to surpass them and Dave Grohl quits the band to start his own project.  Grohl probably never becomes as big, but he still becomes big.  Cobain is in exile until about 2005, when he starts a moderately successful solo career and then goes on to headline some nostalgia grunge group packages with support from bands like Candlestick.  Right about now Nirvana would be planning a reunion tour.







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Hendrix would have ended up like Jimmy Page - drugged up to the point of almost death, then performing here and there through the '80s with big gaps missing, then into the '90s and beyond where he becomes reclusive.

Joplin would have died of AIDS in the '80s

Morrison would've quit the Doors a few years earlier than you say, but pretty much everything else I think is spot on

Mercury wouldn't have done much after 1991 had he lived, as his voice was already losing power. Assuming that the AIDS isn't what took his voice, I figure he's done by '96. But as you say, ten years later they do the big reunion tour. You talk about how popular Queen is with Lambert, some of that has to do with the movie that came out last year. But also, it's a lot easier for the band to get old when the singer is young, don't forget that.

Cobain would have, in my opinion, become the next Izzy Stradlin...he would taken his money, bought a big place, and played around on his go karts and shit. No way that Cobain would've played music much longer as he absolutely hated the road.



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Superstar wrote: Cobain would have, in my opinion, become the next Izzy Stradlin...he would taken his money, bought a big place, and played around on his go karts and shit. No way that Cobain would've played music much longer as he absolutely hated the road.
Who the caliber of Cobain has ever really stepped away completely?  For 5 years sure, but not forever.  He would've come back 3 times by now.

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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: Cobain would have, in my opinion, become the next Izzy Stradlin...he would taken his money, bought a big place, and played around on his go karts and shit. No way that Cobain would've played music much longer as he absolutely hated the road.
Who the caliber of Cobain has ever really stepped away completely?  For 5 years sure, but not forever.  He would've come back 3 times by now.
I'll buy into it as long as his comebacks weren't national tours.  He absolutely fucking hated it.  Like to the level of John Madden hating airplanes - touring made him sicker than he was normally.  If he could set up shop like Billy Joel at MSG and have a residency someplace where he's happy, then by all means, he would've taken the cash.  Otherwise it wouldn't shock me to hear that he moved to Argentina and bought a 50 square mile piece of property to build his paradise on.



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Hendrix would have branched off into jazz similar to what Beck did with Blow by Blow and Wired. Freddie and Queen would have come back huge in the 90's and like all the other old-timey bands (like Queen) would be touring incessantly. I'm not sure if Cobain would have gotten any bigger than he was. Would he have reached elite level if he never died? I don't quite think so. They would have been just like AIC and STP, working musicians.



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I think Jimi Hendrix would have been just fine. from everything i have read he was not a hardcore drug person like janis Joplin and Jim Morrison. Jimi made the mistake of mixing sleeping pills and alcohol one night. he probably would have expanded his music and act. he was talking about that in the weeks before he died.

Janis Joplin was a hard drinker and was into heroin. I don't think Janis would have lived a long life even if she had not died when she did. there was no rehab in those days. and Janis would have had to of taken better care of her voice if she had lived because she would have blown it out the way she was singing. but if she had lived and cleaned up I think you would have seen her be a regular on the talk shows back then. she was very entertaining on the dick cavett show. go watch her appearances on youtube. a great guest. and she would have done more music like her last record with song's like Bobby Mcghee.

Jim Morrison was another one who was a hardcore drinker. he had had damaged his voice by the time he had died with the drinking he had done. I don't think he would have aged well. he was already losing his good looks. I would have hated to see a middle aged, bald, Jim Morrison reading poetry. he was sick of touring. who knows he may have had a change of heart but he didn't seem to like the attention anymore.

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Janis Joplin was a rock star? That's news to me. Joplin was literally a glorified groupie junkie whore. Her only hits were covers or songs written by Kris Kristofferson.


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Hendrix enjoyed partying, but by all accounts was always very careful. There's a lot of conspiracy theories out there that he was murdered by his mob connected manager. Also he suffocated because of criminally bad handling by the EMT's that picked him up.



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I wonder what Buddy Holly’s career might have become. Maybe he would have gone country? Just hard to envision how his sound might have developed over time.

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Part of me thinks John would have done a set with Paul at Live Aid had he lived.

I figure Kurt would have become a recluse. Release the odd solo album after his divorce but stay out of public sight. The odd unannounced small club show in the Northwest maybe.



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broke wrote: Part of me thinks John would have done a set with Paul at Live Aid had he lived.


It's plausible.  Remember, they almost went down to Saturday Night Live on a dare one night to play.  John probably backed out because he hadn't been performing for a while and didn't want to embarrass himself.  Given time to prepare, he might have been up for it.  He was asked constantly about Beatles reunions and he never closed the door on the idea.  However, I can also see George sitting it out just because he was George



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You could argue that, had Kurt Cobain lived, we probably would've been spared Hole's push from 1995 to 1999.


I'm contemplating what would've happened had Randy Rhoads lived. It was accepted that he was going to leave Ozzy's band by the end of 1982. Probably back to Quiet Riot and they might've become bigger than they were.

This also sparks my old conspiracy theory that all 4 members of Metallica died in a 1986 bus crash and were replaced by clones or LMD's. The Cliff Burton Clone didn't take, so they had to hire Jason Newsted (also to cover any suspicions). Thus, had they all lived, "Injustice For All" would've never happened, no Grammy Controversy, and no subsequent backlash from the replacement clones to record the 1991 "Black Album".



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Erick Von Erich wrote: You could argue that, had Kurt Cobain lived, we probably would've been spared Hole's push from 1995 to 1999.


I'm contemplating what would've happened had Randy Rhoads lived. It was accepted that he was going to leave Ozzy's band by the end of 1982. Probably back to Quiet Riot and they might've become bigger than they were.

This also sparks my old conspiracy theory that all 4 members of Metallica died in a 1986 bus crash and were replaced by clones or LMD's. The Cliff Burton Clone didn't take, so they had to hire Jason Newsted (also to cover any suspicions). Thus, had they all lived, "Injustice For All" would've never happened, no Grammy Controversy, and no subsequent backlash from the replacement clones to record the 1991 "Black Album".I don't think Randy would have  went back to Quiet Riot. Supposedly, he wanted to transition completely away from rock and play classical. I definitely think by the 90's he would have come back to Ozzy for a tour and album or two. Classical music doesn't pay for the hi-lites in his hair.

I must say I've never heard that conspiracy theory. I'm very into hearing any new theory but that one sounds too far out for even me.



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It's a bit off the topic but what if Bill Hicks had lived? I think he would have achieved the level of stardom of a George Carlin as someone who's comedy branched off into more of a political statement.

Would Denis Leary have a career? He basically stole Hick's act.

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BitterOldMan wrote: It's a bit off the topic but what if Bill Hicks had lived? I think he would have achieved the level of stardom of a George Carlin as someone who's comedy branched off into more of a political statement.

Would Denis Leary have a career? He basically stole Hick's act.
On the same note, what if George Carlin had lived? We would probably see a brand of observational comedy like we've never seen before.



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