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SAN DIEGO – The New York Yankees have won the Gerrit Cole sweepstakes, according to multiple reports.

When super-agent Scott Boras held his media session on Tuesday at the Major League Baseball Winter Meetings in San Diego, the free-agent pitcher was the main topic of discussion, and now he will be the highest paid pitcher in the history of baseball.
Various outlets, including ESPN and , report the Yankees and Cole have agreed on a nine-year deal valued at roughly $324 million. The deal comes a day after the Washington Nationals announced another Boras-negotiated contract for 2019 World Series Most Valuable Player Stephen Strasburg — a seven-year deal valued at $245 million.

Cole’s reported deal will make his contract the largest signed by a pitcher and at $36 million, the highest Average Annual Value in the MLB, according to Spotrac. Until the reported deal, Strasburg’s contract was the largest signed by a pitcher with an AAV of $35 million, according to Spotrac. Cole’s AAV passes Strasburg, and Astros right-hander Zack Greinke (roughly $34.1 million per season).

Rounding out the remaining pitchers with an AAV of $30 million or more is Astros pitcher Justin Verlander ($33 million), Boston Red Sox lefty David Price ($31 million), Dodgers’ Clayton Kershaw ($31 million), and Nationals pitcher Max Scherzer ($30 million).
Cole spent last season with the American League champions Houston Astros, leading the league with 326 strikeouts and compiling a 20-5 record with a 2.50 ERA. He also finished second on the team with 212.1 innings pitched.

Once official, Cole’s contract will be the fourth largest deal in MLB history behind Yankees outfielder Giancarlo Stanton ($325 million), Philadelphia Phillies outfielder Bryce Harper ($330 million), and Los Angeles Angels outfielder Mike Trout ($426.5 million).
Padres third baseman Manny Machado is the only other player with a contract valued at $300 million or more.

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Ridonculous.  Over a million dollars a start. 
I don't wish him to get injured but I hate the Hankees so I hope he sucks for his entire time there.



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Interesting deal at a time when starting pitching is less valued than ever before, but the Yankees desperately needed a real front-line lights-out pitcher to get over the hump, and by adding Cole they also take him away from their biggest competition.  I hear there will be an opt-out after 5 years, so it's really only a 5 year deal.  If he is losing steam at the end, the Yanks can cut him.  If Cole opts out, well it means he was pretty damn good and the Yankees will be happy with the deal.  

This million dollars a start thing doesn't mean anything.  The Yankees don't even need him in the regular season.  He needs to step up in October against his old sign-stealing team and other elite teams.

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srossi wrote: Interesting deal at a time when starting pitching is less valued than ever before, but the Yankees desperately needed a real front-line lights-out pitcher to get over the hump, and by adding Cole they also take him away from their biggest competition.  I hear there will be an opt-out after 5 years, so it's really only a 5 year deal.  If he is losing steam at the end, the Yanks can cut him.  If Cole opts out, well it means he was pretty damn good and the Yankees will be happy with the deal.  

This million dollars a start thing doesn't mean anything.  The Yankees don't even need him in the regular season.  He needs to step up in October against his old sign-stealing team and other elite teams.
The bolded line is your quote, and you are very correct to say that "in general".  The thing is though, while basic starting pitching is less valued than it used to be, the money paid to aces has never been better.  Grienke and Price started it a few years back, but since then, there have been no real true aces to hit the market.  Jake Arrieta and Dallas Keuchel are quality arms, but neither are worth signing for huge money AND losing a draft pick because they were tendered.  So, they didn't get signed.  Gerrit Cole and Stephen Strasburg are the only true aces to hit the market over the past couple years, because teams are using ace starters either until they are no longer aces, or they trade them at the deadline to a team that more times than not will just toss money to keep them since they gave up assets to get them.  What I'm trying to say is, I don't think this trend will end.  The true #1 SP is going to continue to get paid as well or better than guys like Harper and Machado, but those #2-#3 SPs are going to hurt their careers waiting for the big money, because they won't get it. 



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Interesting deal at a time when starting pitching is less valued than ever before, but the Yankees desperately needed a real front-line lights-out pitcher to get over the hump, and by adding Cole they also take him away from their biggest competition.  I hear there will be an opt-out after 5 years, so it's really only a 5 year deal.  If he is losing steam at the end, the Yanks can cut him.  If Cole opts out, well it means he was pretty damn good and the Yankees will be happy with the deal.  

This million dollars a start thing doesn't mean anything.  The Yankees don't even need him in the regular season.  He needs to step up in October against his old sign-stealing team and other elite teams.
The bolded line is your quote, and you are very correct to say that "in general".  The thing is though, while basic starting pitching is less valued than it used to be, the money paid to aces has never been better.  Grienke and Price started it a few years back, but since then, there have been no real true aces to hit the market.  Jake Arrieta and Dallas Keuchel are quality arms, but neither are worth signing for huge money AND losing a draft pick because they were tendered.  So, they didn't get signed.  Gerrit Cole and Stephen Strasburg are the only true aces to hit the market over the past couple years, because teams are using ace starters either until they are no longer aces, or they trade them at the deadline to a team that more times than not will just toss money to keep them since they gave up assets to get them.  What I'm trying to say is, I don't think this trend will end.  The true #1 SP is going to continue to get paid as well or better than guys like Harper and Machado, but those #2-#3 SPs are going to hurt their careers waiting for the big money, because they won't get it. 

Yeah, but even the aciest of the aces are basically 5-and-fly guys for the most part now.  No one is expected to do much with all the flamethrowers in the pen that most teams have these days.  And with more teams having success with "openers", I think we're seeing a last hurrah for starting pitchers, even though certain teams will always overspend.  



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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Interesting deal at a time when starting pitching is less valued than ever before, but the Yankees desperately needed a real front-line lights-out pitcher to get over the hump, and by adding Cole they also take him away from their biggest competition.  I hear there will be an opt-out after 5 years, so it's really only a 5 year deal.  If he is losing steam at the end, the Yanks can cut him.  If Cole opts out, well it means he was pretty damn good and the Yankees will be happy with the deal.  

This million dollars a start thing doesn't mean anything.  The Yankees don't even need him in the regular season.  He needs to step up in October against his old sign-stealing team and other elite teams.
The bolded line is your quote, and you are very correct to say that "in general".  The thing is though, while basic starting pitching is less valued than it used to be, the money paid to aces has never been better.  Grienke and Price started it a few years back, but since then, there have been no real true aces to hit the market.  Jake Arrieta and Dallas Keuchel are quality arms, but neither are worth signing for huge money AND losing a draft pick because they were tendered.  So, they didn't get signed.  Gerrit Cole and Stephen Strasburg are the only true aces to hit the market over the past couple years, because teams are using ace starters either until they are no longer aces, or they trade them at the deadline to a team that more times than not will just toss money to keep them since they gave up assets to get them.  What I'm trying to say is, I don't think this trend will end.  The true #1 SP is going to continue to get paid as well or better than guys like Harper and Machado, but those #2-#3 SPs are going to hurt their careers waiting for the big money, because they won't get it. 

Yeah, but even the aciest of the aces are basically 5-and-fly guys for the most part now.  No one is expected to do much with all the flamethrowers in the pen that most teams have these days.  And with more teams having success with "openers", I think we're seeing a last hurrah for starting pitchers, even though certain teams will always overspend. 
I like "aciest of the aces".  That's a line I'm keeping.  You mentioning the flamethrowers in the pen is also the huge thing that's seemingly happened over the past six years - guys that burn out as starters like Andrew Miller (not your prototype flamethrower, but still throws 94), guys like Kenley Jansen were converted from catcher of all things, even a guy like Dellin Betances...who the Yanks wanted to be an ace starter when he was really young but found out quickly that he was average at best there.  The teams don't waste as much time developing pitching because they either get hurt, or run out of team control.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Interesting deal at a time when starting pitching is less valued than ever before, but the Yankees desperately needed a real front-line lights-out pitcher to get over the hump, and by adding Cole they also take him away from their biggest competition.  I hear there will be an opt-out after 5 years, so it's really only a 5 year deal.  If he is losing steam at the end, the Yanks can cut him.  If Cole opts out, well it means he was pretty damn good and the Yankees will be happy with the deal.  

This million dollars a start thing doesn't mean anything.  The Yankees don't even need him in the regular season.  He needs to step up in October against his old sign-stealing team and other elite teams.
The bolded line is your quote, and you are very correct to say that "in general".  The thing is though, while basic starting pitching is less valued than it used to be, the money paid to aces has never been better.  Grienke and Price started it a few years back, but since then, there have been no real true aces to hit the market.  Jake Arrieta and Dallas Keuchel are quality arms, but neither are worth signing for huge money AND losing a draft pick because they were tendered.  So, they didn't get signed.  Gerrit Cole and Stephen Strasburg are the only true aces to hit the market over the past couple years, because teams are using ace starters either until they are no longer aces, or they trade them at the deadline to a team that more times than not will just toss money to keep them since they gave up assets to get them.  What I'm trying to say is, I don't think this trend will end.  The true #1 SP is going to continue to get paid as well or better than guys like Harper and Machado, but those #2-#3 SPs are going to hurt their careers waiting for the big money, because they won't get it. 


Wheeler just got 20 mil and i can't say he is  even a 2 or 3 SP 

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krazykid18 wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Interesting deal at a time when starting pitching is less valued than ever before, but the Yankees desperately needed a real front-line lights-out pitcher to get over the hump, and by adding Cole they also take him away from their biggest competition.  I hear there will be an opt-out after 5 years, so it's really only a 5 year deal.  If he is losing steam at the end, the Yanks can cut him.  If Cole opts out, well it means he was pretty damn good and the Yankees will be happy with the deal.  

This million dollars a start thing doesn't mean anything.  The Yankees don't even need him in the regular season.  He needs to step up in October against his old sign-stealing team and other elite teams.
The bolded line is your quote, and you are very correct to say that "in general".  The thing is though, while basic starting pitching is less valued than it used to be, the money paid to aces has never been better.  Grienke and Price started it a few years back, but since then, there have been no real true aces to hit the market.  Jake Arrieta and Dallas Keuchel are quality arms, but neither are worth signing for huge money AND losing a draft pick because they were tendered.  So, they didn't get signed.  Gerrit Cole and Stephen Strasburg are the only true aces to hit the market over the past couple years, because teams are using ace starters either until they are no longer aces, or they trade them at the deadline to a team that more times than not will just toss money to keep them since they gave up assets to get them.  What I'm trying to say is, I don't think this trend will end.  The true #1 SP is going to continue to get paid as well or better than guys like Harper and Machado, but those #2-#3 SPs are going to hurt their careers waiting for the big money, because they won't get it. 


Wheeler just got 20 mil and i can't say he is  even a 2 or 3 SP
I think if Wheeler had some support and a little defense behind him, he would be a solid #2.  With the Mets, he may as well have pitched without an infield behind him.  Maybe the Phillies will provide him with the support he needs...but it's a whole different game pitching at Citizens Bank Ballpark vs Citi Field.  So this could turn out into a bargain or a bust, and I think you'll see it by the end of April which way it's going.



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Angelic Assassin wrote: Ridonculous.  Over a million dollars a start. 
I don't wish him to get injured but I hate the Hankees so I hope he sucks for his entire time there.


I'll go further than that.


A million a start? Meh. How about a nice 100 pitch average outing.


Those are $10,000 pitches he is throwing by the way.

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I hope he knows that the first money he'll be spending will be for clippers and a safety razor. Welcome to the Yankees hippie.



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