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 Posted: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 12:21 am
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Question for our esteemed Brits as well as anyone else who might know. In the 70's, was Earls Court the Madison Square Garden of England? It seems only the biggest of the big played there. Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Pink Floyd, David Bowie, and Bob Dylan were some of the acts that played there. As the years went on, they seemed to get a broader spectrum of rock acts. Some of my questions are:

- Where in London was it? Was it in the center of the city like Madison Square Garden which sits right smack in the middle of midtown Manhattan. Or was it out in the suburbs like Nassau Coliseum.

- Was it considered an extremely special gig or was it kind of like just another night on tour?

- Was the arena famous for anything? By that I mean was there any shows that were considered legendary? Or did they use it for other things.


I started this thread because of a mention in the wrestling section here where I was reminded of one of my favorite matches between Boy Toy and Cena. The show was televised from Earls Court for RAW and the building didn't seem especially spectacular.

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Relatively central London. My father grew up around there, in South Kensington

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I assume the O2 is considered the current MSG of the UK. It’s definitely very distinctive looking. I went by it when I was in London but didn’t go inside.



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I think Earl's Court is still there although there are plans for its redevelopment. There isn't an equivalent of MSG in London, too many venues (e.g. boxing/seventies wrestling came out of Bethnal Green, big matches at the Wembley Arena). And big gigs would also be at the Royal Albert Hall, which was probably considered more prestigious. The O2 is only as old as the century.

I suppose Earl's Court gigs were considered special but only because it was usually the biggest venue for a tour - and that because London is so much bigger than anywhere else on Britain, so there would be more demand (London is seven times bigger than the next biggest city).



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The short answer is that the UK doesn't have an MSG equivalent. At different times, for different events, and for different fans, many different venues are and have been the number one venue in the country. We don't play basketball or ice hockey in the UK, so there aren't these large sports arenas in ever city. Mostly the venues are convention centers that can be converted to host pretty much any event.



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kargol wrote: I think Earl's Court is still there although there are plans for its redevelopment. There isn't an equivalent of MSG in London, too many venues (e.g. boxing/seventies wrestling came out of Bethnal Green, big matches at the Wembley Arena). And big gigs would also be at the Royal Albert Hall, which was probably considered more prestigious. The O2 is only as old as the century.

I suppose Earl's Court gigs were considered special but only because it was usually the biggest venue for a tour - and that because London is so much bigger than anywhere else on Britain, so there would be more demand (London is seven times bigger than the next biggest city).
Interesting answers here. I've never heard of Bethnal Green. Did they ever do concerts there? I know in the 70's I believe the London equivalent of the Palladium in NYC would have been Hammersmith Odeon. I don't remember hearing about that many big artist gigs at the Royal Albert Hall with some notable exceptions like The Beatles, Cream, and Frank Sinatra. These days, is it like Rossi said and O2 is the 'be all end all' for London gigs?



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Wow. I was almost expecting to see ceiling to floor murals of Field Marshall Montgomery and Group Captain Douglas Bader. It looks like the Jiffi-lube Dairy Queen Progressive Insurance bowl in downtown Des Moines.



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WongLee wrote: Wow. I was almost expecting to see ceiling to floor murals of Field Marshall Montgomery and Group Captain Douglas Bader. It looks like the Jiffi-lube Dairy Queen Progressive Insurance bowl in downtown Des Moines.
It actually looks like a bigger Westchester County Center. 



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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: Wow. I was almost expecting to see ceiling to floor murals of Field Marshall Montgomery and Group Captain Douglas Bader. It looks like the Jiffi-lube Dairy Queen Progressive Insurance bowl in downtown Des Moines.
It actually looks like a bigger Westchester County Center.
Outside it does. But the Westchester County Center has tons and tons of mojo in it. I don't think they've done anything to it since 1934.



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Is the Bethnal Green venue York Hall? If so, it has sort of a Blue Horizon from Philadelphia vibe or the Elk's Lodge in Queens that ECW did TV at pretty often. It's very small, but looks cool and atmospheric.



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Yes. I did some law exams in there. It is something of a bearpit so suited wrestling pretty well.



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Here is the Empress Ballroom in Blackpool from the NXT UK show a while back. The capacity is officially listed now as 3,000. I recall it being as high as 6,000 or 7,000 into the 1990s unless I am mistaken.


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This is First Direct Arena in Leeds which holds around 13,000. The venue designed itself for concerts first and foremost, so instead of having the bowl seating plan that accommodates basketball, hockey, and other indoor sports, it went with a configuration that enables it to have most spectators facing the stage.


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Earls Court closed in 2014 and demolished in 2017.

SSE Wembley aka Wembley Arena is another major venue but no MSG.

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