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 Posted: Sat Jan 11th, 2020 11:24 am
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As the title of this topic suggests, I'm trying to make a list of which countries have known professional wrestling footage from before the year 1970. Here is a list of the countries that I know for sure have some existing footage, I've written "clips only" in bold next to the ones where only newsreels/film clips are out there, the rest have proper TV footage:


- Argentina (clips only).
- Austria (clips only).
- Australia.
- Canada.
- Czech Republic (clips only).
- Finland (clips only).
- France.
- Germany (clips only).
- Greece (clips only).
- Ireland (clips only).
- Italy (clips only).
- Japan.
- Mexico.
- New Zealand (clips only).
- Rhodesia (clips only).
- Russia (clips only).
- South Africa (clips only).
- Spain (clips only).
- Sweden (clips only).
- Switzerland (clips only).
- United Kingdom.
- United States.

Am I missing any?

Also, I've been told that Brazil has some known footage from this period too, but so far I haven't been able to determine if what's out there is the usual newsreels/film clips or proper TV footage, if anyone has any info on whether or not Brazil has anything other than clips, I'd be most grateful!

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Pretty much most of mainland Europe. Spain, Italy and Greece all had some wrestling scene, while Austria was always connected to the German scene, and there was also wrestling in Belgium and the Netherlands. The German scene also extended into Hungary, Romanian and Russia. The German scene was the month-long tournament set-up.

Of course, the UK scene also spilled over into Ireland.

Indiana and Pakistan also had pro wrestling, as did South Africa and probably Nigeria.

South Korea as well.

In the Caribbean, the Puerto Rico/Florida scene extended into Cuba, the Bahamas, the Dominican Republic and Trinidad & Tobago.

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Kriss wrote: Pretty much most of mainland Europe. Spain, Italy and Greece all had some wrestling scene, while Austria was always connected to the German scene, and there was also wrestling in Belgium and the Netherlands. The German scene also extended into Hungary, Romanian and Russia. The German scene was the month-long tournament set-up.

Of course, the UK scene also spilled over into Ireland.

Indiana and Pakistan also had pro wrestling, as did South Africa and probably Nigeria.

South Korea as well.

In the Caribbean, the Puerto Rico/Florida scene extended into Cuba, the Bahamas, the Dominican Republic and Trinidad & Tobago.


Does anyone have the last Cuba result with Americans on it and is there any type of scene in Cuba or has there been since the embargo? 



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Other countries that had professional wrestling promotions before 197 include the following:

Austria
Greece
Peru-Hiro Matuda worked there in the early 1960's
Spain- Hecules Cortez & Oscar Verdu got their starts here
Turkey

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Add Venezuela in there. Sammartino appeared there twice and when I was doing research I verified both dates.



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Franchise wrote: Kriss wrote: Pretty much most of mainland Europe. Spain, Italy and Greece all had some wrestling scene, while Austria was always connected to the German scene, and there was also wrestling in Belgium and the Netherlands. The German scene also extended into Hungary, Romanian and Russia. The German scene was the month-long tournament set-up.

Of course, the UK scene also spilled over into Ireland.

Indiana and Pakistan also had pro wrestling, as did South Africa and probably Nigeria.

South Korea as well.

In the Caribbean, the Puerto Rico/Florida scene extended into Cuba, the Bahamas, the Dominican Republic and Trinidad & Tobago.


Does anyone have the last Cuba result with Americans on it and is there any type of scene in Cuba or has there been since the embargo? 

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UPDATE: Thanks for all your help everyone, very interesting stuff!

I've decided to change the title of this topic to from "Which Countries Had Wrestling Before 1970?" to "Which Countries Have Known Pre-1970 Pro-Wrestling Footage?", I'll be using the first post of it to list every country I come across where footage is known to exist, anytime anything new is added, I'll leave a reply here also.

The latest additions to the list in the first post are Africa (Rhodesia) (I'm aware Africa is a continent but it still counts), Czech Republic, Italy and Russia.

Also, does anyone know if any Brazilian footage from this time period exists? I do know there are some clips from Telecatch but is there any other known footage from this country?

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UPDATE: New Zealand is the latest addition to the list in post #1.

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Now that's an interesting question. Did Russia have pro wrestling pre-Czar, Communist years, post-Communism. I don't remember coming across or seeing any results or film clips. Of course they were busy de-populating through pograms and World Wars throughout the 20th century but still an interesting question methinks.



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WongLee wrote: Now that's an interesting question. Did Russia have pro wrestling pre-Czar, Communist years, post-Communism. I don't remember coming across or seeing any results or film clips. Of course they were busy de-populating through pograms and World Wars throughout the 20th century but still an interesting question methinks.
This is the only pre-1970 Russian pro-wrestling footage I've found so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4JOatUfLLw

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Why is this post in every forum now?

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Kriss wrote: Why is this post in every forum now?
I don't see it anywhere else.



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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Why is this post in every forum now?
I don't see it anywhere else.


https://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/forum2/46624.html

https://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/forum17/46625.html

https://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/forum5/46626.html

Plus this post makes 4.

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I wasn't sure which forum was the right place for it, as in I wanted to make sure it was read by those who would be able to contribute, next time I'll ask a moderator.

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legace wrote: I wasn't sure which forum was the right place for it, as in I wanted to make sure it was read by those who would be able to contribute, next time I'll ask a moderator.Portalesman is already ready to give friendly, and accurate advice.



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