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...meaning pretty much every wrestling fan liked them. For example, a lot of people did not like Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair in the 1980's. 

I say Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Road Warriors. Honorable mention to Roddy Piper. The 3 things all of them have in common is they didn't really change their characters much when they turned face. No baby kissers, they were still bad ass.



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It didn't last long but the Steiners were as over as I have ever seen a tag team.


I'll go the same route with a singles guy. Didn't last long but WOW for a brief period of time - Sgt Slaughter and Jimmy Snuka. Crowds went crazy.

If I had to pick a singles wrestler that got 'over' and had that 'longevity-wise' factor ...not my favorite but gimme the Undertaker.

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I've never heard anyone say that they couldn't stand Macho Man Randy Savage.

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They don’t call it a “Road Warrior Pop” for nothing. Definitely them and Austin.



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beejmi wrote: It didn't last long but the Steiners were as over as I have ever seen a tag team.


I'll go the same route with a singles guy. Didn't last long but WOW for a brief period of time - Sgt Slaughter and Jimmy Snuka. Crowds went crazy.

If I had to pick a singles wrestler that got 'over' and had that 'longevity-wise' factor ...not my favorite but gimme the Undertaker.I know that Superfly was over like crazy for a couple years, and it was rumored that Hogan wanted Superfly in his corner for Wrestlemania because he was afraid that Snuka would go out of his way to try and steal the show (which would have created the first true "Wrestlemania Moment").  But what you say about Slaughter is spot on.  From February until the end of 1984, he was more over than anybody and people paid to see him.  It was something that Vince should have done more to advance - but he hitched himself to the Hogan bandwagon, which was a good move, but there was room for both of them at the top.  Honorable mention goes to Goldberg, because as great as the nWo angle was at the time, people paid money to see him wrestle.  Hogan didn't sell out the Georgia Dome, Goldberg did.  The people paid to see him beat Hogan.  I give credit to Hogan for playing it as straight as he did because that was a BIG spot to take the pinfall loss in.  And for the guys as old as Beej - shouldn't Superstar Graham be mentioned here?  I mean, a heel champ selling out MSG and the Spectrum, all the while getting cheered like crazy.  I think that says "over" like anything.

For my pick, I go with Stone Cold, for the reason I mentioned about Slaughter.  From 1997-2000ish, people were going to WWF shows simply to see Austin and paying their hard earned money just to see him - even if all he did was cut promos.  And he was way over even before the whole Austin/McMahon storyline.  But when that hit, it was like a license to print money.  I will say that it ended on Wrestlemania X-7, because when Austin turned on Rock and sided with McMahon, even though it didn't last long, it took a bunch of shine off of him and then with WCW going under, people really weren't paying to see Austin anymore...they were just coming to the shows.
Tag teams?  Well, I liked the Road Warriors and feel they were great, but being in WWF Country, they were never as over as elsewhere.  In fact, I can't remember a show that they were on that they were at the top of the card in WWF.  But they were over, no doubt.  They didn't do the heel thing in the WWF though, I don't think.  Tully and Arn weren't liked - but they got the crowd to buzz.  Case in point, when they came to the WWF they were as hated as any team, but the fans sat up to watch.  But I'm going with the Roadies, and maybe an honorable mention goes to the Rock and Roll Express...simply put, Ricky and Robert sold tickets everywhere they went from 1984-1988.  The way that the Mid Atlantic area treated them was like kings.  I honestly think that for that period of time they may have been the most over tag team ever based on how many people were buying tickets to see them.




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beejmi wrote: It didn't last long but the Steiners were as over as I have ever seen a tag team.


I'll go the same route with a singles guy. Didn't last long but WOW for a brief period of time - Sgt Slaughter and Jimmy Snuka. Crowds went crazy.

If I had to pick a singles wrestler that got 'over' and had that 'longevity-wise' factor ...not my favorite but gimme the Undertaker.
I'm not one of them, but A LOT of people didn't like The Undertaker because of the gimmick. A lot of criticism from the purists, especially after Royal Rumble 94 and the Paul Bearer urn stuff. 



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Yeah, but in 1994, precious little was over in the WWF. They were taping Raw in high school gyms.

Austin is the answer for me. He was also a bit lucky to be around in a time when a repeatable catchphrase was all you needed to get the crowd going. Obviously Austin is many levels above The Godfather and Road Dogg, but the atmosphere at the time certainly helped. It's also possible that he created that environment, in which case the debate is over.



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Kriss wrote: Yeah, but in 1994, precious little was over in the WWF. They were taping Raw in high school gyms.

Austin is the answer for me. He was also a bit lucky to be around in a time when a repeatable catchphrase was all you needed to get the crowd going. Obviously Austin is many levels above The Godfather and Road Dogg, but the atmosphere at the time certainly helped. It's also possible that he created that environment, in which case the debate is over.Without Austin, there is no Rock - period.  There is no way in hell that Vince would've allowed Rock to become "The Rock" and everything that he was if Austin didn't get himself over as much as he did.  And Rock wouldn't have had an opponent as great.  He would've never made it out of the midcard.



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I am voting for Andre the Giant:
1) Was "the name" in professional wrestling - everyone knew who he was
2) Promoters from all over the world would bring him in to their territories to pop attendance
3) Longevity at the top

4) Main stream movie crossover (The Princess Bride)

Tag team has to be the Road Warriors:

1) Held the title in every major wrestling organization
2) Had a unique look that was later copied by many others (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery)
3) Longevity at the top


While I agree that Stone Cold Steve Austin was very over for a time, I don't think the same can be said about the entirety of his career. Stunning Steve Austin of the Hollywood Blondes did not have them "hanging from the rafters".

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Superstar wrote: Kriss wrote: Yeah, but in 1994, precious little was over in the WWF. They were taping Raw in high school gyms.

Austin is the answer for me. He was also a bit lucky to be around in a time when a repeatable catchphrase was all you needed to get the crowd going. Obviously Austin is many levels above The Godfather and Road Dogg, but the atmosphere at the time certainly helped. It's also possible that he created that environment, in which case the debate is over.Without Austin, there is no Rock - period.  There is no way in hell that Vince would've allowed Rock to become "The Rock" and everything that he was if Austin didn't get himself over as much as he did.  And Rock wouldn't have had an opponent as great.  He would've never made it out of the midcard.

That’s a good point and one I hadn’t thought of before. So let me ask this, without Stone Cold, does The Rock become the movie star he is today??  The quick answer really might be no, because if he stays a midcarder to your point The Rock doesn’t happen. Interesting side topic here. 



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Given that it's over 35 years and not a certain time frame, it's kind of hard to pick just one. I'll go Hogan and either the Road Warriors or the Rock n Roll Express



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Austin's a great choice, but I'm going to throw you a curveball. I say Flair might be on top. Even when Flair was a heel, he was cheered by a certain segment of the fans, while the other segment respected him. Watch some of the promos from 1986 and 1987 TBS shows when Flair was supposed to be a dastardly heel and David Crockett was shit-grinning through every Horseman interview and the 75 people in the crowd were chanting for them and booing Dusty. Even when he was a heel, I'm not sure anyone really hated him.



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Blazer wrote: Austin's a great choice, but I'm going to throw you a curveball. I say Flair might be on top. Even when Flair was a heel, he was cheered by a certain segment of the fans, while the other segment respected him. Watch some of the promos from 1986 and 1987 TBS shows when Flair was supposed to be a dastardly heel and David Crockett was shit-grinning through every Horseman interview and the 75 people in the crowd were chanting for them and booing Dusty. Even when he was a heel, I'm not sure anyone really hated him.I can’t argue this.  Flair as a heel was cheered in the Carolinas and Georgia, the two main NWA territories after 1984.  In Florida, he was usually the heel - but people cheered him.  Same goes for St Louis.  The only place that I can say for 100% fact that he was booed every time he came to town was in World Class.  If Kevin ran a show today, and Flair came in unannounced to shit all over the Von Erichs, he would get chased out of Dallas.
But the part that I can really claim on how over Flair was, in November and December 1991, he wrestled in MSG against Hulk.  They weren’t sellouts, but (in my mind) Flair personally drew about 6,000 additional people to each show.  The Garden at this time was not drawing well, as 1991 WWF sucked, and the NY market didn’t like Hogan anymore.  But people came to see Flair.  His return to MSG wasn’t as successful, against Piper, simply because it was the first house after Summerslam...and I think a lot of people spent a lot of money to go to Summerslam and the following card just wasn’t going to bring them in.



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Stone Cold
Flair
Andre
Road Warriors
Steiners (Pre WWF)


Not exactly the same thing but ECW era Dean, Eddie and Benoit could draw a crowd around the tv when I’d put in a tape back in the day.



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