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All of this going on and it was announced that today was the one day record for the Coronavirus cases as they soar to new record high. Serious question time, what is the President doing with all of this going on? Isn't it time for somebody to show some leadership for a change?

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https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2020/06/24/fired-wilmington-cop-we-are-just-going-to-go-out-and-start-slaughtering-them-f-ni-i-cant-wait-god-i-cant-wait-free-read/?fbclid=IwAR00DyqFFcZwEfgNySbsekaxF1d39JAgw99TlqsfYgGxydmJLu0txVYywnI

WILMINGTON — “We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fu—– ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.

These are the words of a now-former Wilmington Police Department officer Kevin Piner.

He, along with two other officers have been fired from the department after dash-cam footage recorded two phone conversations — accidentally — and a supervisor conducting a routine audit of the videos found the disturbing content.

Michael ‘Kevin’ Piner, James ‘Brian’ Gilmore, and Jessie E. Moore II were all terminated from the force. The announcement came from the new Chief of Police Donny Williams — not even 24-hours into his first day as chief.

On Wednesday afternoon, members of City Council along with Williams held a press conference to address the conduct of the former police officers. Williams, a nearly 30-year veteran at the department said he was saddened by the actions of the officers, but would have no tolerance for this type of behavior.

“Today is a challenging day for me because as your police chief, one of my first major tasks is to announce the termination of three veteran police officers,” Williams said.

Related: Three Wilmington police officers off the force after they were recorded making racist comments [Free]

In North Carolina, public records laws typically prevent government agencies from handing out information on personnel; however, in extraordinary circumstances, details can be released to the public.

The former officers actively tried to prevent a release of the information, and an attorney filed an apparently unsuccessful motion for a temporary restraining order, but ultimately the city decided it was the right thing to do.

“Why are we releasing this information this way and at this time? Because it is the right thing to do. Normally, personnel laws allow only a very small amount of information to be made public. However, in exceptional cases, when it is essential to maintain public confidence in the administration of the City and the Police Department, more information may be released. This is the most exceptional and difficult case I have encountered in my career. We must establish new reforms for policing here at home and throughout this country,” Williams said.

As far as the video goes, Williams said the police would be working with a judge to determine if that footage can be released.

“Lastly, we will be filing a petition in which we will ask the Court to review whether or not some or all of the video, in this case, should be released. The law requires that a judge make that determination and we will support the judiciary by bringing the matter before the Court and supplying any information or other documents that Court may desire,” Williams said.

Willaims and Saffo both stressed the importance of not placing the blame of the three officers on the hundreds of other officers in the department.
The recordings

On June 4, just days after protests began in Wilmington regarding the murder of George Floyd in Minnesota, a Sergeant Heflin was conducting monthly video audits — a routine part of her job — when she came across what was labeled as ‘accidental activations’ from Piner’s car.

Apparently, the car’s camera system was recording despite not being ‘activated’ for an incident (typically cameras are recording at all times but will not keep the recordings unless an officer triggers the system).

After skipping through the video, which was largely video of his backseat, she found a conversation between Piner and Corporal Jessie Moore — a police officer with the department since 1997.

She reviewed the conversation she ‘heard comments, extremely racist comments made by both Piner and Moore,” according to a summary provided by police.

The video also recorded a conversation with Officer Gilmore who apparently had pulled up next to Piner’s car.

Both conversations were explicit and racist in content.

According to the investigation summary, at 6:51 a.m., on a date not listed, Piner and Gilmore are recorded having a conversation.

“Their conversation eventually turned to the topic of the protests against racism occurring across the nation. Piner tells Gilmore that the only thing this agency is concerned with ‘kneeling down with the black folks.’ Gilmore then said that he watched a video on social media about white people bowing down on their knees and ‘worshipping blacks,'” according to the summary.

The conversation then turned to other police officers in the Wilmington Police Department — black officers.

The audio has Piner calling one of the officers ‘bad news’ and a ‘piece of shit.’

“Let’s see how his boys take care of him when shit gets rough, see if they don’t put a bullet in his head,” Piner said about a fellow officer.

That conversation ends as Piner goes to respond to an alarm call.
‘A civil war is coming’

The second of the two conversations that day happened after Piner received a phone call from Moore.

According to the summary, “Moore began telling Piner about an arrest he had made at work the day before. During that conversation, Moore refers to the female as a ‘negro’ and a ‘ni—-‘ on multiple occasions.”

He also referred to a magistrate judge, who is also black, as a ‘fucking negro magistrate.’

“At one point, Moore states, ‘she needed a bullet in her head right then and move on. Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going.’ Piner responds, ‘That’s what I have been trying to tell you,'” according to the documents.

After more derogatory comments about the arrestee and the magistrate, the conversation takes an even bleaker turn, as the two officers discuss an upcoming ‘civil war.’

“Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is ‘ready.’ Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple of weeks. A short time later Officer Piner began to discuss society being close to ‘martial law’ and soon ‘we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.’ Moore responded that he would not do that. Piner stated, ‘I am ready.'” according to the summary.

“Officer Piner then explained to Cpl. Moore that he felt society needed a civil war to ‘wipe ’em off the fucking map. That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.'”

After the conversations were discovered police launched their own investigations into the incidents. None of the officers involved denied saying the things they said, according to WPD>

“Each officer admitted it was their voice on the video. They did not deny saying any of the things heard on the video. Each officer pointed to the stress of today’s climate in law enforcement as a reason for their ‘venting,'” according to the investigation.

Chief Williams took the following corrective actions for the three officers.

Termination of employment, not eligible for rehire with the City of Wilmington
Notification of the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission in regards to the behaviors. These individuals should not be allowed to practice law enforcement again, he said.
Consultation with the District Attorney’s Office regarding these officers being used as witnesses in cases and reviewing any previous cases they might have testified in to determine any bias that might have been exhibited.



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I'm sure it was all taken out of context. Let's hear the videos from the beginning. If on the minute chance that it is true, the other 99.9999999999% of the department are great guys and gals.



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Rogan was saying there was 21 murders over the weekend in Harlem. Is that true and is that a big number? I know nothing about New York



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Franchise wrote: Rogan was saying there was 21 murders over the weekend in Harlem. Is that true and is that a big number? I know nothing about New York
Harlem is completely safe at this point so 21 would be a shit-ton.  On a normal weekend the number would be closer to 0.  I have no idea if that number is true, bu the NYPD are jacking up every statistic they can think of to battle the defunders, so I just don't trust stats anymore.  We went from being at all-time record crime lows to being an absolute post-apocalyptic den or murder over night as soon as the cops started to get some heat.  This is an old song that they love to sing.

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Rogan was saying there was 21 murders over the weekend in Harlem. Is that true and is that a big number? I know nothing about New York
Harlem is completely safe at this point so 21 would be a shit-ton.  On a normal weekend the number would be closer to 0.  I have no idea if that number is true, bu the NYPD are jacking up every statistic they can think of to battle the defunders, so I just don't trust stats anymore.  We went from being at all-time record crime lows to being an absolute post-apocalyptic den or murder over night as soon as the cops started to get some heat.  This is an old song that they love to sing.
Pretty much this. Harlem is nowhere near what it's reputation was in the 60's and 70's. There were 319 murders across all five boroughs in 2019. Twenty one in a weekend is impossible to believe. The pigs are compiling the stats the opposite way of the Giuliani years. Under St. Rudy, there was a guy found with three bullets to the back of the head and was marked down as a suicide. What it sounds like they're doing now is grandpa succumbs to a heart attack at 87 years old in his bed in a million dollar brownstone on 127th Street, and they'll put he was killed in the cross-fire of two drug gangs shooting it out for control of the opium or marihuana trade in Harlem. I'd like to know what difference it would make if the pigs aren't defunded. If there was 21 people murdered in Harlem over the past weekend, would a full force NYPD have prevented any of them? Of course the answer is no. Cops very, very rarely prevent a crime from being committed (that's not anti-cop rhetoric, it's just a fact). They always come after the fact and use their squealers to catch somebody to hang the crime on. They're trying to paint a picture of civilization slowly devolving into chaos because they're not here to protect and serve us.



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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Rogan was saying there was 21 murders over the weekend in Harlem. Is that true and is that a big number? I know nothing about New York
Harlem is completely safe at this point so 21 would be a shit-ton.  On a normal weekend the number would be closer to 0.  I have no idea if that number is true, bu the NYPD are jacking up every statistic they can think of to battle the defunders, so I just don't trust stats anymore.  We went from being at all-time record crime lows to being an absolute post-apocalyptic den or murder over night as soon as the cops started to get some heat.  This is an old song that they love to sing.
Pretty much this. Harlem is nowhere near what it's reputation was in the 60's and 70's. There were 319 murders across all five boroughs in 2019. Twenty one in a weekend is impossible to believe. The pigs are compiling the stats the opposite way of the Giuliani years. Under St. Rudy, there was a guy found with three bullets to the back of the head and was marked down as a suicide. What it sounds like they're doing now is grandpa succumbs to a heart attack at 87 years old in his bed in a million dollar brownstone on 127th Street, and they'll put he was killed in the cross-fire of two drug gangs shooting it out for control of the opium or marihuana trade in Harlem. I'd like to know what difference it would make if the pigs aren't defunded. If there was 21 people murdered in Harlem over the past weekend, would a full force NYPD have prevented any of them? Of course the answer is no. Cops very, very rarely prevent a crime from being committed (that's not anti-cop rhetoric, it's just a fact). They always come after the fact and use their squealers to catch somebody to hang the crime on. They're trying to paint a picture of civilization slowly devolving into chaos because they're not here to protect and serve us.

Every death is murder when a conservative is in charge and every death is Covid if a liberal is in charge. What a country. 



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This is the most heart-breaking police murder yet as more details from last year come to light.

https://www.upworthy.com/elijah-mcclain-police-investigation-death



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I can’t remember if I posted it or if someone else did but Live PD filmed a suspect die during their off season and the footage was destroyed per the rules of the contract they had with The channel that aired the show. The rule basically said all tapes are destroyed after so many days and all that would remain is the show footage which in this case their wasn’t any as it was the off season for the show.



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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Rogan was saying there was 21 murders over the weekend in Harlem. Is that true and is that a big number? I know nothing about New York
Harlem is completely safe at this point so 21 would be a shit-ton.  On a normal weekend the number would be closer to 0.  I have no idea if that number is true, bu the NYPD are jacking up every statistic they can think of to battle the defunders, so I just don't trust stats anymore.  We went from being at all-time record crime lows to being an absolute post-apocalyptic den or murder over night as soon as the cops started to get some heat.  This is an old song that they love to sing.

As of June 14th there have been 159 murders in NYC according to the cops which thry say is up 25%.  No breakdown by borough that i saw. But as mentioned crime numbers have been fudged for decades depending on what agenda is being pushed.  Even I'd be surprised if there were 21 in one weekend in Harlem alone.



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I've done a few Google searches along the lines of "21 Harlem murders" with a few dates and I can't find anything at all backing that number. Lots of anecdotal evidence of higher crime in NYC that is likely made-up, but absolutely zero on that specific number in that part of town last weekend. There's no way that can be true. People from Wisconsin assume that's nothing, but NYC doesn't have many murders total, so 21 over the stretch of a few blocks in one weekend is just too astronomical for words to describe. It's almost like a cop in Kenosha pulled that out of his ass in a Facebook post because he thought it sounded good, and then Donald Trump, Jr. tweeted it because that's what he does.

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Maybe Rogan was really talking about a larger period of time and just condensed it by saying weekend



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Franchise wrote: Maybe Rogan was really talking about a larger period of time and just condensed it by saying weekend
There's no way there were 21 murders in Harlem all year.  It's possible there were 21 shootings in Harlem this year, or over a smaller period of time I suppose, but that's much different than murders.  NYC has 8 1/2 million people and maybe 300 murders a year recently, so imagine how large that 21 number is if you're only talking about Harlem, which basically consists of few blocks of brunch places where white people can drink mimosas on Sunday at noon to pretend they're "urban".

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srossi wrote: This is the most heart-breaking police murder yet as more details from last year come to light.

https://www.upworthy.com/elijah-mcclain-police-investigation-death
This story defies belief. This is actually exponentially worse than the George Floyd killing. These fucking animal pigs should be lynched from a lamppost. Then when people try to get justice for this gentle soul, they're blocked by other pig scumbags. But I'm going overboard. It's just a few bad apples. I always thought the Kelly Thomas killing was the worse one I've read about. This one has the unenviable "honor" of being worse. Much worse.



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srossi wrote: This is the most heart-breaking police murder yet as more details from last year come to light.

https://www.upworthy.com/elijah-mcclain-police-investigation-death


Jesus Christ that is fucked up.



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