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 Posted: Sat Jul 11th, 2020 12:10 am
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krazykid18 wrote: khawk wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Franchise wrote: Seattle city council voted in favor of cutting the police budget by half right away.
I haven't really been following the "defund the police" movement so maybe there is something that I am missing. How is defunding the police supposed to result in safer communities? It sounds to me like the only people who would benefit from this are the criminals. What am I missing?
In theory less police responding = less dead African Americans...but probably more dead social workers/whomever takes their place answering certain kinds of calls. 


Police probably prevent 1% of crime, if somebody wants to blow your head off you better hope you are aware of the attack and d efend or that they are a bad shooter..
Also i thought police kill more white people than blacks lmao

Numerically police absolutely kill more whites than blacks, but whites make up a bigger part of the population. Percentage-wise, they kill more blacks. But where BLM is always wrong is thinking that it’s just a racism problem and not a pig problem. They will and do kill anyone who they feel disrespected by. Blacks interact much more frequently with pigs though because black neighborhoods are more heavily patrolled. It’s not like this never happens in white neighborhoods though, if someone is stupid enough to call them to the area. 



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srossi wrote: krazykid18 wrote: khawk wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Franchise wrote: Seattle city council voted in favor of cutting the police budget by half right away.
I haven't really been following the "defund the police" movement so maybe there is something that I am missing. How is defunding the police supposed to result in safer communities? It sounds to me like the only people who would benefit from this are the criminals. What am I missing?
In theory less police responding = less dead African Americans...but probably more dead social workers/whomever takes their place answering certain kinds of calls. 


Police probably prevent 1% of crime, if somebody wants to blow your head off you better hope you are aware of the attack and d efend or that they are a bad shooter..
Also i thought police kill more white people than blacks lmao

Numerically police absolutely kill more whites than blacks, but whites make up a bigger part of the population. Percentage-wise, they kill more blacks. But where BLM is always wrong is thinking that it’s just a racism problem and not a pig problem. They will and do kill anyone who they feel disrespected by. Blacks interact much more frequently with pigs though because black neighborhoods are more heavily patrolled. It’s not like this never happens in white neighborhoods though, if someone is stupid enough to call them to the area. 



I think police reform especially the demilitarization of the police would be good. I think some laws should be changed as well including the whole “I pulled you over for a cracked tail light but Now I smell the devils weed!!!!!!!” Which would likely cut down on the interaction count which would be a positive. I think the police either really need to be involved in the community so they can build a relationship or they need to be like the fire department and only show up when called. Giving out tickets for speeding on a vacant highway while illegal isnt hurting anyone accept for the person getting the ticket. 


The issue I see with defunding the police is it creates a power vacuum and someone always wants to fill it. If I had to choose I’d rather have the sheriff walking my neighborhood than a national guards person from the Chop / Chaz. Theoretically the sheriff would be policing by the letter of the law were as it could be argued the Chop / Chaz guards police on personal morality. I am curious to see how these proposed armed neighborhood watch groups navigate the legal system because like I’ve said before drawing a weapon on someone Outside of your home unless you are in grave danger seems to equal breaking the law even if shots aren’t fired. 




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Hoodlums tried to tear down the Christopher Columbus statue in Grant Park (Chicago) last night. Photo of the aftermath:

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Police officers had bottles thrown at them and were injured. The story though is that the local news media remains virtually silent. Also last night, Bloomingdale's on Michigan Avenue was looted. Hardly a peep on the news.



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And Portland is on day 9 million of protests. I’m not a lawyer or a historian but I would think at some point someone in local power is obligated to do something to stop the unrest or to turn it over to the feds to stop it with vocal approval of the local government.



I know government officials are afforded certain protections but at some point once you know what you are allowing is dangerous I would think there is a certain obligation like it or not.



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Not sure where the best place to put this is and maybe somebody already posted it or commented but because one person spam emailed the hell out of Mirriam Webster they amended their definition of racism to basically suit the social justice warrior agenda.






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There's also the fact that most newspapers have now settled on capitalizing "Black" while continuing to use lower case for "white".



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tamalie wrote: A guy who participated in the Minneapolis riots posted to social media an account of his conduct on the night the 3rd precinct police station was burned down, including posing in photos and/or videos with items he looted including body armor, a knight stick, a radio, and a clip for a 9mm pistol although not the gun to go with it. His employer got wind of this and fired him. He showed up there later in the day, presumably to get his stuff since there has been no accusation of him going there with any ill intent. The St. Paul PD was called and the guy was arrested. He has since admitted to being inside the police station while it was on fire, including pushing a barrel into the fire to fuel it. He has priors for trespassing and interfering with a 911 call, in the latter case pleading down to that as a way of getting charges dropped for domestic assault, property damage, disorderly conduct, and trespassing. Upon learning of his kid's latest arrest, his father was quoted by the Minneapolis Star Tribune as saying about his son, “He has grandiose ideas, a lot of them … and zero common sense.” 

In an odd sidelight, the newspaper had previously run a story about cleanup efforts in the riot zone after the trouble ended. Among many damaged buildings was a large liquor store across the street from the police station that had been torched with the fire department unable to get to the scene because of the chaos in the streets. As looters fled the building while the fire got out of control, people on the street shouted that someone who had gone in hadn't come out. The fire was too much for anyone to go back in to check. During the cleanup effort, the same person from the matter described above was named as one of the people who'd defied barriers and fire department warnings about the burned up structure being dangerously unstable to go in and dig through the rubble in search of the possibly missing person. At this point no one has been found or reported missing, so likely the belief someone was trapped in the burning building was mistaken. The only plausible possibility of someone perishing at this point would be if it was someone from a nearby homeless encampment who'd either not be noticed as missing or not reported as such.

No dead body was recovered from the burned down liquor store. However, yesterday demolition workers clearing rubble from a nearby pawn shop that was burned down found a corpse amidst the debris. The corpse was badly burned and has gone through decomposition. Whether the death came from burning or perhaps smoke inhalation is unknown. Police had already arrested a man last month for setting the fire. Now homicide or at least manslaughter charges are in the mix. The identity of the dead person has not been released although authorities have stated the it was a male. 

It's odd because there haven't been any public mentions of people being missing or unaccounted for in the aftermath of the riots. No appeals for information about such people have been made. My guess is the deceased was somebody living a life that would make their sudden disappearance either go unnoticed or not seem out of the ordinary. There is a big homeless camp nearby. There are also a lot of gutter punks who drift in and out. It's also possible it was someone not from one of those groups that came from out of town and whose family and friends might be looking for him at home, but hadn't thought to search up here.

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Hey Murica!  For any of you more up on BLM  is any of this true? 






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I didn’t see this specifically but I had heard some of this. I think it was Brandon Tatum that said something’s when he was comparing it to the black panther movement (which was before my time) And how they fed the homeless and improved schools etc with the money they raised.



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That's story #4289 where, if the races were reversed, it would have been on a 24/7 news cycle and every white person in America would have been personally responsible for it.



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Trump has sent 150 federal agents to help with the chaos in Chicago. There are a couple of important takes on this. First, 150 "agents" isn't shit to control this city. I don't think 150 guys could pull all of the weeds in my backyard right now, let alone control the crime. The bigger issue is that most of this (like 99%) has nothing to do with Antifa or BLM. There are continued gang shootings on the south and west sides. Just two days ago, 15 people were shot outside a funeral home as retaliation. It's unreal. There's no way just 150 troops could control this. We need like 20,000 National Guard troops stationed on every street corner. And then there is continued looting and graffiti and general fuckery downtown. This is something that's never happened before, but it's the angry young AA kids riding on the Red Line or Green Line downtown and hanging out and fucking things up on the weekends.

On Twitter, I saw some out of touch lefty "mom" reply to the story of Trump sending troops. She said she would be coming to Chicago to fight back against them. She has no clue as to what the issue is. This has nothing to do with troops trying to control protesters (regardless of the Columbus statue fiasco from last Friday evening). This has more to do with out of control gang crime and general fuckery.



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Those people in Portland can run around with umbrellas, leaf blowers and hammers and think whatever they want but you are right the people in Chicago aren’t playing games with each other.



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