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 Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 12:19 am
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The PWHS had some discussion about whether some argument had merit, and I think our pal HarryG was involved. Once a consensus had been made, George chimed in basically plugging his own page, and that all the discussions on disputed topics took place in his own head, and then he would remove the post without further scrutiny. With a dismissive wave eyewitness accounts like Rich had can be discarded and the burden of proof will be demanded elsewhere. I would rather have a list of possibilities to explore the way claw has alternate finishes and so forth listed underneath each event. But he's khawk's pal I know, having been an invited guest in George's home. He is more qualified to speak on Authoritative matters.

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I repeat. I was there along with several thousand others. It was a big card. It might have been one of Bob Luce's Super Bowl cards which he held every November or December


In the WWA interviews building up the card both Wilbur Snyder and Bruiser talked about being at Verne's last match in Chicago.

It took me a long time to convince Minneapolis guys that Snyder & O'Connor beat Race & Markoff in an AWA title switch in Chicago. It took me a week or so but I found my program and I hope it's listed. I was at that one too.
I never missed Chicago cards. Every three weeks there's no excuse.

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Chitown Rich wrote: I repeat. I was there along with several thousand others. It was a big card. It might have been one of Bob Luce's Super Bowl cards which he held every November or December


In the WWA interviews building up the card both Wilbur Snyder and Bruiser talked about being at Verne's last match in Chicago.

It took me a long time to convince Minneapolis guys that Snyder & O'Connor beat Race & Markoff in an AWA title switch in Chicago. It took me a week or so but I found my program and I hope it's listed. I was at that one too.
I never missed Chicago cards. Every three weeks there's no excuse.


The attendance was something  over  9000 for that card I thought was the number I saw.
If the Authority believes only cards he was at actually happened thrn those resu,ts books of his are worthless.
As mentioned I'd rather have a 100 different cards to research a d find that only a few were actual cards I didn't have than to miss out on those. 
It's funny how it is I guess, you get guys like Claw, generous to a fault with his results and knowledge as well as many other results guys then you have the George Schires of the world that you have to corkscrew into the ground to get any information out of that he doesn't claim is the absolute truth while everyone else's info is garbage. 
You wouldn't be able to use all the fingers on one hand to find people who had a bad thing to say about Claw while it's a fact that George drives people away on every board or site he's on. 
He's been quiet on that FB site since posts went up proving he doesn't know everything. May not have realized that was his page, if it is. Might have to delete it. Too tired and too late in life for a pain in the ass on FB.



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Sonny Rogers said something about a Verne-Adonis retirement match on the date in question. I looked up the search for KM.

Sonny hasn't been around lately. It's possible he was at this card. I will try to find him through his friends.

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Chitown Rich wrote: Sonny Rogers said something about a Verne-Adonis retirement match on the date in question. I looked up the search for KM.

Sonny hasn't been around lately. It's possible he was at this card. I will try to find him through his friends.

I believe you were there. I don't need more validation than that. Maybe Sonny can help George out though.



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I will look through some old programs tomorrow but I didn't save too many of the cardboard style ones.

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One Fan Gang wrote: The PWHS had some discussion about whether some argument had merit, and I think our pal HarryG was involved. Once a consensus had been made, George chimed in basically plugging his own page, and that all the discussions on disputed topics took place in his own head, and then he would remove the post without further scrutiny. With a dismissive wave eyewitness accounts like Rich had can be discarded and the burden of proof will be demanded elsewhere. I would rather have a list of possibilities to explore the way claw has alternate finishes and so forth listed underneath each event. But he's khawk's pal I know, having been an invited guest in George's home. He is more qualified to speak on Authoritative matters.lol...pal may be a bit much. George (like a lot of people I suspect) is ok in person, as opposed to the shitdick he often comes across as online. His KM persona wasn't really any different than his FB persona is.I made him look bad on KM once over something (Gagne vs. Brunzell match I think, which he claimed never happened and I had video saying otherwise), but he didn't throw a fit or anything. I'm hoping if there is any acknowledgement of him being mistaken about the Gagne-Adonis bout that it follows suit.If not, it's the George we all recognize which we should all be used to by now.

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Chitown Rich wrote: I will look through some old programs tomorrow but I didn't save too many of the cardboard style ones.What AA said. Rich, your word is all we need.

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I was there in Chicago in November. As Rich wrote, this was probably one of Bob Luce's Superbowl cards.

I might have the Lucky Number Program from that night. I'll check this weekend.

Then again, I am not an AWA authority who was present at every AWA card...ever, for me to speak about such things.
Oh wait......

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The closest to a confession I have seen is when you see the phrase "that is why pencils have erasers" and if only that attitude was practiced and not just paid lip service to... we wouldn't be dealing with this mindset.

I respect Rich's eyewitness reports. That is the attitude that needs change. If George has a perceived gripe, he won't accept certain people's accounts. Way to go, Rich!

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Let me add this.

I have met George a few times in person and he is a great guy. First time I went up to Minneapolis for a Bockwinkel convention he and Karch were absolutely great to me. We have exchanged stuff through the years. He is an AWA expert no doubt about it.

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Chitown Rich wrote: Let me add this.

I have met George a few times in person and he is a great guy. First time I went up to Minneapolis for a Bockwinkel convention he and Karch were absolutely great to me. We have exchanged stuff through the years. He is an AWA expert no doubt about it.

If the in-person George matched the online one, this wouldn't be a thing. But onlinegeorge is almost the opposite of the guy you talk about above.

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Kriss wrote: The Chicago Tribine is a horrible source for wrestling results. It was patchy even in the 50s when pretty much every wrestling show in North America was covered in reasonable detail by a local newspaper. By 1981, there weren't even adverts, let alone articles. Had the Observer started by November 81?
It is too bad the Chicago Sun-Times isn't available in archived form online. Maybe someday it will be. The broadsheet Tribune was and is the respectable newspaper in town, having a readership that generally was more educated and better off financially than the readership of the Sun-Times which had more of a working class background and thus tended to be less well educated and not as well off financially. Long story short, the promotion likely saw the Sun-Times as the paper read by its fanbase and concentrated whatever newspaper advertising and blurbs about upcoming cards in that publication.

I met George Schire for lunch several years ago, intending to do so again, but it sort of got away from me. Long story made short, I absolutely agree that he's a really nice guy when you meet him in person. Some guys just don't come off well online whether because their tone can't be properly interpreted or they don't really get internet customs and communication, which differs from the real world, something that really hurt him early on when he used is Authority heel poster gimmick, not getting that what worked in a dirt sheet's reader letter's page didn't on a message board.  It must also be said that George was long used to being the one and only expert and I think running into people who knew as much and more was both shocking and upsetting to him. That said, face to face he really is a good guy.

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khawk wrote: Chitown Rich wrote: Let me add this.

I have met George a few times in person and he is a great guy. First time I went up to Minneapolis for a Bockwinkel convention he and Karch were absolutely great to me. We have exchanged stuff through the years. He is an AWA expert no doubt about it.

If the in-person George matched the online one, this wouldn't be a thing. But onlinegeorge is almost the opposite of the guy you talk about above.

I forgot to add, he was much more pleasant to me the second time I met him.  He he was selling his book with all photo credits given to "From the collection of George Schire" or something like that, lol.

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