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For those of you that are Dems or have Dem friends in real life what is the feeling like around other Dems? Are they embracing the progressiveness? Are people unsure what to do or is it just people falling in line without thinking? 



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Franchise wrote: For those of you that are Dems or have Dem friends in real life what is the feeling like around other Dems? Are they embracing the progressiveness? Are people unsure what to do or is it just people falling in line without thinking? 


I have a good split of friends between Democrats and Republicans.  I don't know one Democrat friend who is really "progressive", even the ones that say all the right things on Facebook.  None of them are very extreme, none of them are that into Bernie or AOC or Warren, all hate Trump but will only grudgingly vote for Biden.  They rarely mention politics in real life other than to complain about something idiotic Trump tweeted. 

Honestly, my Republican friends have been radicalized.  They're much more likely to be ranting in real life.  I have to change the subject.  One of my friends was a centrist who gave $100 to Obama's first campaign, which is huge for him because he's never given a cent to anyone else ever, and now he's basically Trump's biggest fan.  We have to stick to sports or music because if the topic veers anywhere else I just have to walk away.  My Republican friends literally feel like every day is a personal attack on their lives and they are super pissed all the time. 

That's my honest assessment of the 25-30 people in my circle, for what it's worth.  It's only anecdotal of course. 

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My advice is to try and vote independent and get as many Dems & Republicans out of office as we can.

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Franchise wrote: is it just people falling in line without thinking? 

It's ALWAYS like that with the Dems every year. Black, White (Jew), or Brown.



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My wife will vote for Biden, but that's cause she sees Trump as a cunt, and cons trying to pick away at abortion as stuck in the 1800's. She's pretty much a centrist.

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I'm a conservative in a state that up until the last 20 years was a Demo stronghold. I'm seeing the exact opposite as most of the old dems are voting for people they share no values with to stay in the party while the new dems in the area have taken a sharp, left turn.



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I am registered as an independent but have been voting as a Democrat in the primaries the last couple of cycles. In the general elections, I vote person not party. I try to vote for the person who best represents my views and that is very difficult because being a fiscal conservative doesn’t automatically mean you are also a social conservative. In 2012; I voted for Obama for President while also voting for Republican candidates  in NC for Governor and Senator. Trump is about as far away from my views as a person can get. I will hold my nose and vote for Biden.



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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: For those of you that are Dems or have Dem friends in real life what is the feeling like around other Dems? Are they embracing the progressiveness? Are people unsure what to do or is it just people falling in line without thinking? 


I have a good split of friends between Democrats and Republicans.  I don't know one Democrat friend who is really "progressive", even the ones that say all the right things on Facebook.  None of them are very extreme, none of them are that into Bernie or AOC or Warren, all hate Trump but will only grudgingly vote for Biden.  They rarely mention politics in real life other than to complain about something idiotic Trump tweeted. 

Honestly, my Republican friends have been radicalized.  They're much more likely to be ranting in real life.  I have to change the subject.  One of my friends was a centrist who gave $100 to Obama's first campaign, which is huge for him because he's never given a cent to anyone else ever, and now he's basically Trump's biggest fan.  We have to stick to sports or music because if the topic veers anywhere else I just have to walk away.  My Republican friends literally feel like every day is a personal attack on their lives and they are super pissed all the time. 

That's my honest assessment of the 25-30 people in my circle, for what it's worth.  It's only anecdotal of course. 


My long time friends are fine no matter what, We might have a Political discussion every now and then but regardless of the sides everyone is fine. We are adult enough to be able to agree to disagree. 

However I’ve met a new wave of people since moving and oh boy they get offended in a heart beat. I’ve ruined a few people’s night by saying “you know that’s not true”. That’s about as far as I go and it still gets people sideways. 

I don’t personally know anyone who is openly progressive 



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I think part of it depends on the age group you work with. I work with a lot of younger staff. Every year we get new grads. Right now between days and nights, there's at least 10 new RN's who are 25 or under, and all are female. Then add in a bunch of nursing students who are working as Interns it probably makes up @ 40% of our unit. You can hear and see the left swing in the breakroom conversations. That contrasts with some of the old bats we have working who are in their 60's and are stuck in the 1880's mindset.

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gwlee7 wrote: I am registered as an independent but have been voting as a Democrat in the primaries the last couple of cycles. In the general elections, I vote person not party. I try to vote for the person who best represents my views and that is very difficult because being a fiscal conservative doesn’t automatically mean you are also a social conservative. In 2012; I voted for Obama for President while also voting for Republican candidates  in NC for Governor and Senator. Trump is about as far away from my views as a person can get. I will hold my nose and vote for Biden.
Your post and Rossi's pretty much sum up my thoughts.  I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, and I have never felt so alienated by both parties.

I have one FB "friend" who is a huge Bernie guy and way left.  Many of my friends are conservatives but I'd say 99% of that comes from being hunters in rural Michigan.  Those Dems are gonna take are guns away...  If you stripped away the second amendment argument from politics they would all be Dems, but they are so scared they'll lose their guns that they screw themselves in every other aspect of their lives.

Facebook Republicans love to call people snowflakes, but I've never heard a more whiny bunch of people who are offended by everything, and it usually breaks down into name calling.  They also seem to have the inability to say, "I support Trump, but that was a dumb thing to say."  The roller coaster after "injecting disinfectant" was awesome.  I've never seen so many people switch their view points so many times so fast.  

  



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Well the gun argument is a hard one To avoid when you have Biden arguing with a guy talking about taking his AR-14 (which isnt real) And Robert Orouke basically having no platform other than taking your guns.


In your area how do your friends screw themselves by voting republican? What would be different if they voted the opposite?



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I admittedly painted with a broad brush on that but it's pretty economically depressed area. 
A lot of the people are living off some sort of gov assistance, can't afford health care- and I'm not talking about just insurance- like actually visiting a doctor or buying medicine, can't afford to send their kids to college/trade school, a lot of things dems support.  The tax cuts for the wealthy and corporate bail outs never seem to trickle down to them like promised.

They aren't invested in the market but they'll tell you how Trump's economy is the best ever while they pick up their food from the distribution center I volunteer at.  They'll tell you about the libtard governor and what an idiot she is... the one that approved the food they are picking up, and funded the school their child goes to (the Republican Gov before her defunded our schools and stole the teacher's pension money to pay for his defense after he poisoned Flint's water), and extended the state of emergency so her husband's business could get another small business bailout even though he has a sign out front that says "My governor is an idiot."   



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Was this area in better condition under Obama’s 8 years?


When you talk about college are you referring to a policy that would pay for college or trade school so a child or parent wouldn’t have to take out loans?



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Franchise wrote: Was this area in better condition under Obama’s 8 years?


When you talk about college are you referring to a policy that would pay for college or trade school so a child or parent wouldn’t have to take out loans?

Any number of policies... 
reforming the student loan system
or if you want to go farther Bernie's free college for everyone
if you have zero health care some form of universal health care should be better
if you're on government assistance why would you support the party that wants to cut government assistance
if you're poor why would you support a tax cut for the rich so you can pay more
if you work a minimum wage job why would you be against a minimum wage increase

I'm not voicing my support for these things, but I can't see why someone who would benefit from these programs would be against them.  These are the "entitled takers sucking the system dry"  the Mitt Romney used to bitch about, but they voted for him cuz he wasn't coming for their guns.


Under Obama... it's tough to say it's an odd area.  Our county always has one of the highest unemployment rates, about 75% of families qualify for free & reduced lunches, but we are surrounded by two huge lakes where the average home is nearly a million dollars. The lake homes are "summer cottages" so the people there aren't local and aren't here year round.
During Obama we also had Governor Snyder fucking everyone with his policies, so it's hard to say who to credit with the good and who to blame with the bad.  In Michigan, as I suppose with most states, Lansing & Detroit get all the money and all the decisions are passed or defeated based on their influence.  The farther away from them you are the more screwed you get & we are pretty far.



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Sounds like an interesting area to live.


If Trump Or Biden said keep your guns and You can have free college, healthcare, doctors visits and medication for everyone what happens to your area?



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