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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 12:59 am
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Spatulapup wrote: I have been watching World Class. If you can handle the Von Erich's being rammed down your throat you will be alright. The Freebirds vs The Von Erichs in 1983 is awesome. It's their NWO angle. Meaning it's huge and white hot. I have really grown to appreciate David Von Erich. I like his interviews. He is the most relatable of the 3. The skit with him and Jimmy Garvin on the ranch is just classic. But after Dave is gone it loses something. He was the best of the 3. He was a huge loss. He is one of those big what it's..

They follow up that huge angle with Chris Adams turning on Kevin. It's not on the same level.
I agree. David was the glue that held the Von Erich boys together. After he died, it was over less than a year later for me. The segments of David making Garvin and Precious (due to a pre-match stipulation) work on the VE ranch are classic.



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WCW.

I was rooting for it to fail by 99 because it had gotten so rotten but now I regret it.



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Angelic Assassin wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Al Tomko Vancouver All Star Wrestling.....so bad it was a train wreck to watch, but hard to turn away.
The Kiniski/Kovacs era was good, though of course I knew little of the behind the scenes stuff back then.


But yeah Tomko, lol. For the first few years of the 80's, my grandmother passed in 83,  we'd sometimes watch together or she'd call me and say " did you watch. What was that? LOL.

Because of Cancon rules, that shit was sometimes on 3 different channels broadcasting different weeks each sat. CKVR out of Barrie,  CKCO out of Kitchener and the local CBC channel all ran it at some point.

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All-Star Wrestling -I worked for them since i was 16.
Mid-South, Stampede & Portland.
 
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 02:18 pm
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Spatulapup wrote: I have been watching World Class. If you can handle the Von Erich's being rammed down your throat you will be alright. The Freebirds vs The Von Erichs in 1983 is awesome. It's their NWO angle. Meaning it's huge and white hot. I have really grown to appreciate David Von Erich. I like his interviews. He is the most relatable of the 3. The skit with him and Jimmy Garvin on the ranch is just classic. But after Dave is gone it loses something. He was the best of the 3. He was a huge loss. He is one of those big what if's..

They follow up that huge angle with Chris Adams turning on Kevin. It's not on the same level.


I agree.  The Birds vs. Von Erichs is great.   It's tough to watch in large doses because the announcing annoys me.  Everything the Von Erichs do is so grand.  I can't remember which brother it was by they were wrestling Flair for the title and got a one count or two count early in the match.  It was not a dramatic 2 and a half or a false finish or near pin.  Just your average cover and kick out.  The fucking announcer kept over selling it and referring back to it as if it was some spectacular near fall that almost altered the history of the NWA.  
He kept a tally of every time Von Erich covered Flair and would call them near title changes.  "Four times in this match David nearly took the title from Flair."  For fuck's sake, he covered him and he kicked out at one or two.  I know they were trying to put the boys over, but settle the fuck down & let us watch the match.  The action and angles will get them over.  

The refs are pretty comical too.  Bronko can hardly move and is so slow, and I can't tell what I think about David Manning.  Sometimes he adds to the story and helps highlight things, but sometimes he's such an attention whore that he detracts from the match.  He's so biased when one of the Von Erich boys is wrestling that I spend the match laughing and wishing there was a hell announcer to point it out.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Kriss wrote: I can't think of a promotion that wasn't on a downward slide before it went out of business, which kind of makes them hard to miss. 
This makes it cloudy.  I love the AWA but the ending was such dogshit that it was a mercy killing.  
What I watched of Mid-Atlantic was great.  
Florida was great until Dusty left.
World Class was strong, but after the Freebirds left they struggled to create heels and continued to use the same formula.  Friend of the Von Erichs turns heel, rinse repeat.  It worked with the Freebirds & Chris Adams.  It didn't work with Brian Adias & Johnny Mantel.

Southwest Championship was fun while I watched it.

What I've seen of Portland I like.



Shit, it was Al Madril not Johnny Mantel.  Shows how fucking memorable the heel turn was.



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Franchise wrote: Superstar wrote: I have no facts to back this up. But I believe had Mid South not been ruined by the oil crisis, they would’ve stuck around and been a real thorn in Vince’s side. His booking wasn’t the best, as you can see by the diminished returns on the Superdome shows. But when he had the ability to focus on storyline, he was as good as any. I think the issue was him doing long-term booking at a time when talent was jumping which screwed him up. But what we already saw was guys like the Freebirds, Buzz Sawyer, and Dick Murdoch coming back after going to the WWF because they hated working the schedule. You don’t think other name talent wouldn’t have done the same?

I don’t see it, I think Mid-South was great in 84/85 and slid down from there with a few peaks along the way. A Long term working agreement with JCP and WCCW or JCP and Mid-South and You have a thorn in Vince’s side. 

I loved Mid-South, even though I came in late (we didn't get it in Chicago until the summer of '86), but I often wonder if it wouldn't have gone stale after a few years just because bookers kinda have a shelf-life and shit just seems to be recycled every 4-5 years.
Going back and watching Dick Slater give Buzz Sawyer the tv title, how many times was that used around the horn?  Even with Slater, he gave the Mid-Atlantic belt to Ivan Koloff in '84.  



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