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 Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2020 02:07 pm
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I thought that baseball would be "easy" to continue despite the COVID pandemic. How did the Korean teams pull it off?

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MLB players are not in a bubble like the NBA and NHL players are. The South Korean government tested more people faster and put its lockdown into place sooner and more effectively. In New Zealand, the rugby teams that are in a league with Australian and South African teams are playing amongst themselves and have had crowds for games as high as 43,000 because that country also took this a lot more seriously than the United States has in general, although I will accept that it's a lot easier to lockdown a smaller country that's an island with a smaller population.

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tamalie wrote: MLB players are not in a bubble like the NBA and NHL players are. The South Korean government tested more people faster and put its lockdown into place sooner and more effectively. In New Zealand, the rugby teams that are in a league with Australian and South African teams are playing amongst themselves and have had crowds for games as high as 43,000 because that country also took this a lot more seriously than the United States has in general, although I will accept that it's a lot easier to lockdown a smaller country that's an island with a smaller population.
What does it mean that these countries took this much more seriously?  You basically answered your own question by pointing out that New Zealand and South Korea are island nations (Korea has one, hermetically sealed border, hence it's basically an island).  If your point is that America hasn't taken this seriously, I wonder if you get out much and witness the destruction of our economy, our social ties, our schools, etc., not to mention the hysteria around things like masks.  



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England, France, Italy, Germany and Spain all managed to complete their football (soccer) seasons this month with next to no positive tests. Leagues in most countries in Europe are starting again in August. Baseball is practically a socially distanced sport compared to football.

The US didn't take Covid seriously. It started later in the US, and when Trump (I'm using him as the representative, it was of course the failing of many govenment officials) saw Europe starting to re-open, he got FOMO like your little brother and he wanted to play too.



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The US has not taken this seriously enough, all you have to do is examine the numbers and look at charts. Don't try to pass this off as Korea and NZ being outliers because "they're islands" or some other nonsense. They didn't question the experts when told to wear masks, stay home etc; they followed science and beat it. Politics did not play a role in it at all, unlike what's happened here and that's why we can't have nice things. They're are too many knuckleheads, especially in positions of authority, who have not taken this plague seriously enough.



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KGB wrote: tamalie wrote: MLB players are not in a bubble like the NBA and NHL players are. The South Korean government tested more people faster and put its lockdown into place sooner and more effectively. In New Zealand, the rugby teams that are in a league with Australian and South African teams are playing amongst themselves and have had crowds for games as high as 43,000 because that country also took this a lot more seriously than the United States has in general, although I will accept that it's a lot easier to lockdown a smaller country that's an island with a smaller population.
What does it mean that these countries took this much more seriously?  You basically answered your own question by pointing out that New Zealand and South Korea are island nations (Korea has one, hermetically sealed border, hence it's basically an island).  If your point is that America hasn't taken this seriously, I wonder if you get out much and witness the destruction of our economy, our social ties, our schools, etc., not to mention the hysteria around things like masks.  


Has the American economy suffered? Absolutely. I know of businesses that have closed, laid people off, and expect massive revenue reductions. Has education suffered due to distance learning? Definitely, maybe not all kids have fallen behind but certainly enough that it's too much and unfortunately it's mostly the kids that can least afford to fall behind and will have the most trouble making up the lost ground. I have seen all of this first hand both through my own work with clients and vendors suffering and through my wife's work as a public elementary school teacher in a district that has a fair share of at risk students for whom distance learning has been one long spring/summer break.

That said, has America taken seriously enough what should be done to stem the Covid-19 tide? It has not, certainly not in comparison to many other nations that are reopening or have reopened to greater extents than here without having the slip backs. Other nations have the benefit of being islands like New Zealand and an effective one like South Korea, without a doubt. However, those successes aren't just about geography. They're also about better testing and human behavior. It seems like people here want it both ways. They want to live their lives as if Covid-19 didn't exist or only want to take preventative measures for only so long before deciding they've done enough. 

We won't see eye to eye on this, but whatever. The fact that so many people when faced with the need to make a sacrifice towards restoring normal life immediately complain that Covid-19 is all hype and that any measure to possibly prevent it is hysteria are actually what is preventing normal life from resuming. Are masks fool proof? No. Are they useless? No and often it's not just the mask as a piece of equipment but the social distancing behavior that wearing one promotes and that wearers practice. I really think that if various elected officials had not blown off Covid-19 as something that would magically vanish in a few weeks and not rushed to reopen, MLB would not be in danger and the likelihood of the NFL season never starting or stopping early would be lower.

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The Marlins obliterated the Phillies bullpen yesterday

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tamalie wrote: KGB wrote: tamalie wrote: MLB players are not in a bubble like the NBA and NHL players are. The South Korean government tested more people faster and put its lockdown into place sooner and more effectively. In New Zealand, the rugby teams that are in a league with Australian and South African teams are playing amongst themselves and have had crowds for games as high as 43,000 because that country also took this a lot more seriously than the United States has in general, although I will accept that it's a lot easier to lockdown a smaller country that's an island with a smaller population.
What does it mean that these countries took this much more seriously?  You basically answered your own question by pointing out that New Zealand and South Korea are island nations (Korea has one, hermetically sealed border, hence it's basically an island).  If your point is that America hasn't taken this seriously, I wonder if you get out much and witness the destruction of our economy, our social ties, our schools, etc., not to mention the hysteria around things like masks.  


Has the American economy suffered? Absolutely. I know of businesses that have closed, laid people off, and expect massive revenue reductions. Has education suffered due to distance learning? Definitely, maybe not all kids have fallen behind but certainly enough that it's too much and unfortunately it's mostly the kids that can least afford to fall behind and will have the most trouble making up the lost ground. I have seen all of this first hand both through my own work with clients and vendors suffering and through my wife's work as a public elementary school teacher in a district that has a fair share of at risk students for whom distance learning has been one long spring/summer break.

That said, has America taken seriously enough what should be done to stem the Covid-19 tide? It has not, certainly not in comparison to many other nations that are reopening or have reopened to greater extents than here without having the slip backs. Other nations have the benefit of being islands like New Zealand and an effective one like South Korea, without a doubt. However, those successes aren't just about geography. They're also about better testing and human behavior. It seems like people here want it both ways. They want to live their lives as if Covid-19 didn't exist or only want to take preventative measures for only so long before deciding they've done enough. 

We won't see eye to eye on this, but whatever. The fact that so many people when faced with the need to make a sacrifice towards restoring normal life immediately complain that Covid-19 is all hype and that any measure to possibly prevent it is hysteria are actually what is preventing normal life from resuming. Are masks fool proof? No. Are they useless? No and often it's not just the mask as a piece of equipment but the social distancing behavior that wearing one promotes and that wearers practice. I really think that if various elected officials had not blown off Covid-19 as something that would magically vanish in a few weeks and not rushed to reopen, MLB would not be in danger and the likelihood of the NFL season never starting or stopping early would be lower.
In the 20 years I've "known" tamalie, this is the angriest and most passionate I've ever seen him. You're a horrible horrible man KGB. A horrible horrible man.



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At this point I don’t believe much. In the past 2 weeks I’ve seen plenty of misleading articles, retracted death counts, articles that BLM protests may have slowed the spread, hydroxy doesn’t work, then it does work but maybe your doctor won’t tell you about It if they think it will make you angry. The fake cherry health segment, the gym in New Jersey that was closed.



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It was inevitable I think.



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WongLee wrote: tamalie wrote: KGB wrote: tamalie wrote: MLB players are not in a bubble like the NBA and NHL players are. The South Korean government tested more people faster and put its lockdown into place sooner and more effectively. In New Zealand, the rugby teams that are in a league with Australian and South African teams are playing amongst themselves and have had crowds for games as high as 43,000 because that country also took this a lot more seriously than the United States has in general, although I will accept that it's a lot easier to lockdown a smaller country that's an island with a smaller population.
What does it mean that these countries took this much more seriously?  You basically answered your own question by pointing out that New Zealand and South Korea are island nations (Korea has one, hermetically sealed border, hence it's basically an island).  If your point is that America hasn't taken this seriously, I wonder if you get out much and witness the destruction of our economy, our social ties, our schools, etc., not to mention the hysteria around things like masks.  


Has the American economy suffered? Absolutely. I know of businesses that have closed, laid people off, and expect massive revenue reductions. Has education suffered due to distance learning? Definitely, maybe not all kids have fallen behind but certainly enough that it's too much and unfortunately it's mostly the kids that can least afford to fall behind and will have the most trouble making up the lost ground. I have seen all of this first hand both through my own work with clients and vendors suffering and through my wife's work as a public elementary school teacher in a district that has a fair share of at risk students for whom distance learning has been one long spring/summer break.

That said, has America taken seriously enough what should be done to stem the Covid-19 tide? It has not, certainly not in comparison to many other nations that are reopening or have reopened to greater extents than here without having the slip backs. Other nations have the benefit of being islands like New Zealand and an effective one like South Korea, without a doubt. However, those successes aren't just about geography. They're also about better testing and human behavior. It seems like people here want it both ways. They want to live their lives as if Covid-19 didn't exist or only want to take preventative measures for only so long before deciding they've done enough. 

We won't see eye to eye on this, but whatever. The fact that so many people when faced with the need to make a sacrifice towards restoring normal life immediately complain that Covid-19 is all hype and that any measure to possibly prevent it is hysteria are actually what is preventing normal life from resuming. Are masks fool proof? No. Are they useless? No and often it's not just the mask as a piece of equipment but the social distancing behavior that wearing one promotes and that wearers practice. I really think that if various elected officials had not blown off Covid-19 as something that would magically vanish in a few weeks and not rushed to reopen, MLB would not be in danger and the likelihood of the NFL season never starting or stopping early would be lower.
In the 20 years I've "known" tamalie, this is the angriest and most passionate I've ever seen him. You're a horrible horrible man KGB. A horrible horrible man.

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New Zealand's an interesting case because, yes, they kept their death count low and are essentially free of cases right now.  They did it by walling themselves off from the world.  And now what?  If there's a vaccine developed, they're in okay shape, although they've probably dealt a fatal blow to their tourism sector already.  And if not?...  Is this it for our Kiwi friends?  Are they now prisoners in perpetuity?  There are no human vaccines for any strain of Corona viruses.  Maybe someone will catch lightning in a bottle this time, but that's far from certain, far from likely I'd argue.  I wouldn't want to live in New Zealand right now and realize that foreigners are not allowed to visit and that if I need to leave the country, I have to quarantine for 2 weeks in a government facility upon return.  How long can they sustain these policies?  1 year?  5?  10?  



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Must be the ball is jacked up or it carries further in these empty stadiums!! Watching my highlights on mlb it seems that everyone and anyone is hitting them out!!

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