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Big Garea Fan wrote: Michael Jackson's "Thriller". It was a huge deal at the time with MTV hyping its release and playing up that John Landis was directing it. Instead of just being the typical 4-5 minute music video, it was a 14 minute short film. Of course, it also featured Vincent Price and is a Halloween tradition since its release nearly 40 years ago.
It's not that great.  It's basically zombies line dancing.  The US came late to the music video, acts like Duran Duran, Adam & The Ants, and Madness had been doing much better videos for a couple of years.  The video had been a thing here for nearly a decade by then.

Candidates include:
"Sledgehammer" by Peter Gabriel - groundbreaking;
"Crazy" by Aerosmith - Alicia Silverstone and Liv Tyler in lesbian romps;
"Harvest For The World" by The Christians - basically an anthology from some of the best animators of the time;
"Glosoli" by Sigur Ros - perfect synthesis of sound and vision.




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I can't see embedded vids either, so would it fucking kill you assholes to put the fucking names with em!


I knew some assholes were going to post Take On Me- shit song and dumb video & Sledgehammer- dumber song and worse video.


I agree about Closer being creepy. Not replacing the censored parts & just posting the blank card to say that part was removed was a brilliant touch.


As mentioned, One by Metalica is indeed one of the best ever, as well as the G-N-R trilogy.
We're Not Gonna Take It & I Wanna Rock were good too.



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Not knocking Metallica but "One"'s greatness comes from the source material "Johnny Got His Gun". Without it, there's no song or video.



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I know it's a cover but "Smooth Criminal" by Alien Ant Farm pushes the right buttons. Great tribute!



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kargol wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Michael Jackson's "Thriller". It was a huge deal at the time with MTV hyping its release and playing up that John Landis was directing it. Instead of just being the typical 4-5 minute music video, it was a 14 minute short film. Of course, it also featured Vincent Price and is a Halloween tradition since its release nearly 40 years ago.
It's not that great.  It's basically zombies line dancing.  The US came late to the music video, acts like Duran Duran, Adam & The Ants, and Madness had been doing much better videos for a couple of years.  The video had been a thing here for nearly a decade by then.

Candidates include:
"Sledgehammer" by Peter Gabriel - groundbreaking;
"Crazy" by Aerosmith - Alicia Silverstone and Liv Tyler in lesbian romps;
"Harvest For The World" by The Christians - basically an anthology from some of the best animators of the time;
"Glosoli" by Sigur Ros - perfect synthesis of sound and vision.




"Thriller" was a couple decades before zombies were everywhere.  It was groundbreaking for the time and very well done.  I don't see any Filipino prisoners imitating Duran Duran or Madness.  I don't think your timeline is right either.  It's not like U.S. artists woke up one morning, heard about MTV, and decided to make videos.  They were made here for just as long.  Before MTV came about, HBO used to play music videos between features.  There wasn't the push to make them avant garde during the late 70s but there was a variety for sure.  Of course, like so many things, one could easily point at The Beatles as ground breakers.  See their videos for "Paperback Writer"/"Rain" for example.  
For no particular reason, the one video from the golden age that I always think of is "Karma Chameleon" by Culture Club, with its antebellum riverboat scenery.  Great song, too.  



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It depends how you define pop video. Beatles and Monkees did cuts for some of their singles but they were part of a different narrative. Like a three minute burst for a film or programme.

The idea of a self-contained unit for broadcast was definitely British - because we had a weekly programme that broadcast the pop chart, and played songs that were in it. Acts who could make it to the studio would perform; one song per week would have the resident dancing troupe act it out; but increasingly some acts made their own promo to air instead. One of the first was Benny Hill, who made a short film for "Ernie (The Fastest Milkman In The West)" (the Christmas number 1 of 1971).

With kids' tv often showing them as well, there was a much greater exposure for videos in Britain than in the US, so we were well ahead of the curve (most American clips were live cuts). And I assume Filipino prisoners have really shit taste in music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e1xvyTdBZI



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'Thriller' was deemed culturally significant by the National Film Registry & has become for Halloween what Noel & Silent Night are for Christmas. Tile of thread should be: What Was The Greatest Music Video of All-Time Besides 'Thriller' because that's how dominant it is

Elvis Presley: 'Jailhouse Rock' can be considered a music video. There are tons of examples but point is 'music videos' have a long history

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BitterOldMan wrote: Not knocking Metallica but "One"'s greatness comes from the source material "Johnny Got His Gun". Without it, there's no song or video.My grandparents had a huge stack of "Johnny Got His Gun" movie playbills and advertisements. I used to use them for drawing and colouring paper. I still have a few kicking around someplace I think. Anyways I knew the movie existed back then as a small child but had no idea what the movie was about until I saw the Metallica video, at which point I read up on it more.

Frightening kind of story, really.

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khawk wrote: BitterOldMan wrote: Not knocking Metallica but "One"'s greatness comes from the source material "Johnny Got His Gun". Without it, there's no song or video.My grandparents had a huge stack of "Johnny Got His Gun" movie playbills and advertisements. I used to use them for drawing and colouring paper. I still have a few kicking around someplace I think. Anyways I knew the movie existed back then as a small child but had no idea what the movie was about until I saw the Metallica video, at which point I read up on it more.

Frightening kind of story, really.


You are both correct.  I had never heard of the movie until the video came out.



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KGB wrote: kargol wrote: Big Garea Fan wrote: Michael Jackson's "Thriller". It was a huge deal at the time with MTV hyping its release and playing up that John Landis was directing it. Instead of just being the typical 4-5 minute music video, it was a 14 minute short film. Of course, it also featured Vincent Price and is a Halloween tradition since its release nearly 40 years ago.
It's not that great.  It's basically zombies line dancing.  The US came late to the music video, acts like Duran Duran, Adam & The Ants, and Madness had been doing much better videos for a couple of years.  The video had been a thing here for nearly a decade by then.

Candidates include:
"Sledgehammer" by Peter Gabriel - groundbreaking;
"Crazy" by Aerosmith - Alicia Silverstone and Liv Tyler in lesbian romps;
"Harvest For The World" by The Christians - basically an anthology from some of the best animators of the time;
"Glosoli" by Sigur Ros - perfect synthesis of sound and vision.




I don't think your timeline is right either.  It's not like U.S. artists woke up one morning, heard about MTV, and decided to make videos.  They were made here for just as long. 

In the MTV documentary they said all they had when they started were a bunch of videos from the UK- 8 of which were by Rod Stewart and 3 Pat Benatar videos.  It may have been a little tongue in cheek but if you watch their first 3 hours of programing it's pretty close.



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Here's the list of the first 20 videos...


“Video Killed the Radio Star,” the Buggles
“You Better Run,” Pat Benatar
“She Won’t Dance,” Rod Stewart
“You Better You Bet,” the Who
“Little Susie’s on the Up,” PhD
“We Don’t Talk Anymore,” Cliff Richard
“Brass in Pocket,” the Pretenders
“Time Heals,” Todd Rundgren
“Take It on the Run,” REO Speedwagon
“Rockin’ the Paradise,” Styx
“When Things Go Wrong,” Robin Lane and the Chartbusters
“History Never Repeats,” Split Enz
“Hold on Loosely,” .38 Special
“Just Between You and Me,” April Wine
“Sailing,” Rod Stewart
“Iron Maiden,” Iron Maiden
“Keep On Loving You,” REO Speedwagon
“Message of Love,” the Pretenders
“Mr. Briefcase,” Lee Ritenour
“Double Life,” the Cars



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Here's the list of the first 20 videos...


“Video Killed the Radio Star,” the Buggles
“You Better Run,” Pat Benatar
“She Won’t Dance,” Rod Stewart
“You Better You Bet,” the Who
“Little Susie’s on the Up,” PhD
“We Don’t Talk Anymore,” Cliff Richard
“Brass in Pocket,” the Pretenders
“Time Heals,” Todd Rundgren
“Take It on the Run,” REO Speedwagon
“Rockin’ the Paradise,” Styx
“When Things Go Wrong,” Robin Lane and the Chartbusters
“History Never Repeats,” Split Enz
“Hold on Loosely,” .38 Special
“Just Between You and Me,” April Wine
“Sailing,” Rod Stewart
“Iron Maiden,” Iron Maiden
“Keep On Loving You,” REO Speedwagon
“Message of Love,” the Pretenders
“Mr. Briefcase,” Lee Ritenour
“Double Life,” the Cars

That's the list (in order) of the first 20 videos that MTV ever played, but not the first videos ever made.

If you ever see Pat Benatar in concert, Neil Giraldo will drone on for 10 minutes (every single time) about how he is the first guitarist ever heard on MTV because "Video Killed the Radio Star" didn't have guitar featured in it.  He's been living off of that story for 35 years now. 



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srossi wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Here's the list of the first 20 videos...


“Video Killed the Radio Star,” the Buggles
“You Better Run,” Pat Benatar
“She Won’t Dance,” Rod Stewart
“You Better You Bet,” the Who
“Little Susie’s on the Up,” PhD
“We Don’t Talk Anymore,” Cliff Richard
“Brass in Pocket,” the Pretenders
“Time Heals,” Todd Rundgren
“Take It on the Run,” REO Speedwagon
“Rockin’ the Paradise,” Styx
“When Things Go Wrong,” Robin Lane and the Chartbusters
“History Never Repeats,” Split Enz
“Hold on Loosely,” .38 Special
“Just Between You and Me,” April Wine
“Sailing,” Rod Stewart
“Iron Maiden,” Iron Maiden
“Keep On Loving You,” REO Speedwagon
“Message of Love,” the Pretenders
“Mr. Briefcase,” Lee Ritenour
“Double Life,” the Cars

That's the list (in order) of the first 20 videos that MTV ever played, but not the first videos ever made.

If you ever see Pat Benatar in concert, Neil Giraldo will drone on for 10 minutes (every single time) about how he is the first guitarist ever heard on MTV because "Video Killed the Radio Star" didn't have guitar featured in it.  He's been living off of that story for 35 years now. 

Correct, it was a continuation of my post above that MTV's first days were very UK heavy.



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