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According to TMZ.  WTF?!

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10 years battling cancer? Doesn't seem that shocking to me.

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Wow. RIP. Had no idea he was on his way out from it, if that makes sense.

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I've never cried over a celebrity death, although SRV's hit me really hard, but I have tears in my eyes right now. Van Halen was the first band I ever was fanatical over, it's the Stones and VH (Dave and Sam) and then everyone else for me..part of my childhood just died today...god I fucking hate October..

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Married Jo wrote: I've never cried over a celebrity death, although SRV's hit me really hard, but I have tears in my eyes right now. Van Halen was the first band I ever was fanatical over, it's the Stones and VH (Dave and Sam) and then everyone else for me..part of my childhood just died today...god I fucking hate October..
SRV>>>>>EVH

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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: Married Jo wrote: I've never cried over a celebrity death, although SRV's hit me really hard, but I have tears in my eyes right now. Van Halen was the first band I ever was fanatical over, it's the Stones and VH (Dave and Sam) and then everyone else for me..part of my childhood just died today...god I fucking hate October..
SRV>>>>>EVH

Oh yeah, I agree with that..

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How many thousands of people have played "Eruption" in the past hour? I know I put it on immediately.

I was never a big VH fan. I really grew to not be able to stand Roth's goofiness, and even the early stuff was often silly. I'm solidly in the Van Hagar camp, but I can't say I was ever a big fan of them either. But Eddie's riffs were iconic of course, and I won free tickets to see them at Jones Beach in 2015. Out of all the hundreds of shows I've been to, it was my only time seeing VH live. I can't lie and say it was a good show. It wasn't. Roth was terrible and even Eddie just seemed to be going through the motions. I left thinking, "I'm glad I didn't pay for that, but I'm happy I can say I got to see Eddie at least once." I felt the same way when I saw B.B. King at the end of his life in 2013 and Johnny Winter at the end of his in 2014 (but I did actually pay a lot to see Winter, King was also free).  I do wish I had bitten the bullet and paid the "big bucks" to see Eddie shred closer to his prime years ago even if I didn't like the band much, but oh well. 

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I saw them multiple times with Sammy and once with Dave but Eddie was top notch every time I saw them..and one of those times was the 2004 tour where he was wasted and played like shit but the night I saw them was the tour opener and he was on as good as he ever was, so I was lucky there. Hell, when I saw them with Dave it was 2007 and even Dave was good that night so I was extremely lucky. Other than seeing the Stones in their Mick Taylor prime my other concert dream would have been to see one big major Van Halen show with both Dave and Sammy taking turns fronting the band..it would have been epic..

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I saw VH at the Meadowlands on the Poundcake tour or whatever that fucking album was - sometime between '90-'92, and Alice in Chains opened up. AIC were booed mercilessly and I think Sammy or Eddie said something on stage later in the show about how the crowd didn't show the proper respect for AIC because they were great. But the show itself was excellent. Layne Staley bitched out the crowd, except for one row down front, probably no further than six rows from the stage. They had a big banner, and Layne dedicated Rooster to them, and Rooster hadn't been on an album yet, so it was brand new to all of us. As far as VH goes, I'm very happy that I saw them when I did - Michael Anthony was awesome, Sammy was as Sammy is...incredible and high energy, and the VH brothers were giving a shit back then. So happy that I saw them. RIP Eddie, to be honest, I'm not as surprised after thinking about it as a lot of people. He has had cancer for seemingly the last 25 years only it really is about ten years or so. He pretty much lived the great life and was pretty happy so good for him.

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Superstar wrote: I saw VH at the Meadowlands on the Poundcake tour or whatever that fucking album was - sometime between '90-'92, and Alice in Chains opened up. AIC were booed mercilessly and I think Sammy or Eddie said something on stage later in the show about how the crowd didn't show the proper respect for AIC because they were great. 
Was prob Sammy, he and Jerry Cantrell are good buds...

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The latest news is that his cancer has moved to his brain. I’m sure he knew it was the end then.

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Winnipeg was a part of many of their tours and it's either 5 or 6 times I've seen them dating back to 79.

Seems like this has been a crazier than usual year for celebrity death with almost 3 full months left to go.

Guess even though they weren't together I'll give Valerie Bertinelli a bit of time before giving her a dingle. 

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The guy was literally a god. He brought the kind of innovation to rock that hadn't been seen since Jimi passed. This is one of the only three celebrities who has died that I'm upset about. The other two were so long ago with Bon Scott and Randy Rhoads. I was lucky enough to see Van Halen right near the beginning once they started to break national. I saw them a month apart at my beloved Palladium. The April show was Horslips/Van Halen/Fotomaker and the May show was Journey/Montrose/Van Halen. I skipped their big tour with the rapidly declining Black Sabbath. We caught their first headlining MSG show in the summer of 1981 with the aptly named The Fools opening., They were on fire that night. Actually that's what they opened with..."On Fire" Some friends and I took a drug fueled ride in something like 20 hours to Orlando to see the mighty Van Halen open for the Rolling Stones a little later that year. It didn't disappoint. I didn't follow them much when they became Van Hagar even though I loved 5150. I never saw the Roth reunion shows because....well......no Mike and a pale imitation of the front man Dave used to be just didn't cut it for me.

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srossi wrote: How many thousands of people have played "Eruption" in the past hour? I know I put it on immediately.

I was never a big VH fan. I really grew to not be able to stand Roth's goofiness, and even the early stuff was often silly. I'm solidly in the Van Hagar camp, but I can't say I was ever a big fan of them either. But Eddie's riffs were iconic of course, and I won free tickets to see them at Jones Beach in 2015. Out of all the hundreds of shows I've been to, it was my only time seeing VH live. I can't lie and say it was a good show. It wasn't. Roth was terrible and even Eddie just seemed to be going through the motions. I left thinking, "I'm glad I didn't pay for that, but I'm happy I can say I got to see Eddie at least once." I felt the same way when I saw B.B. King at the end of his life in 2013 and Johnny Winter at the end of his in 2014 (but I did actually pay a lot to see Winter, King was also free).  I do wish I had bitten the bullet and paid the "big bucks" to see Eddie shred closer to his prime years ago even if I didn't like the band much, but oh well. 

I saw VH with Sammy when Alice In Chains opened in I think, 92. I went to see VH, but AIC was actually better and without a 1/4 of the gear.

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srossi wrote: I do wish I had bitten the bullet and paid the "big bucks" to see Eddie shred closer to his prime years ago even if I didn't like the band much, but oh well. 
If you're talking about a real time world you probably would have been too young to see Eddie in his prime. After the 1986 5150 Tour he became VERY repetitious and uninspired. His playing on that first Van Hagar tour was ungodly. Arguably the best he ever played. The early shows I mentioned were good, but there was somebody always so fucked up in the band that it would bring the show down.

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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: I do wish I had bitten the bullet and paid the "big bucks" to see Eddie shred closer to his prime years ago even if I didn't like the band much, but oh well. 
If you're talking about a real time world you probably would have been too young to see Eddie in his prime.

I prefer to live in a fantasy world where I was a chain-smoking 62-year old in 1986 who complained that music stopped being good after Duke Ellington. 

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RIP Eddie :(

Van Halen were my first favorite band growing up and Eddie was my favorite guitarist.

Sorry....can't really find the words to say what I'm feeling now.

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Married Jo wrote: I've never cried over a celebrity death, although SRV's hit me really hard, but I have tears in my eyes right now. Van Halen was the first band I ever was fanatical over, it's the Stones and VH (Dave and Sam) and then everyone else for me..part of my childhood just died today...god I fucking hate October..I cried over a lot of them but there is always a feeling of "it's just a matter of time."  The one which shocked me the most and made me sad the longest was Owen Hart...since he was my favorite wrestler, had no drug problems, and had a life planned after wrestling.  But when the newscaster said "A WWF wrestler had tragically died during tonight's PPV...." I crossed my fingers and when I found out it was Owen, I lost it.

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Married Jo wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: Married Jo wrote: I've never cried over a celebrity death, although SRV's hit me really hard, but I have tears in my eyes right now. Van Halen was the first band I ever was fanatical over, it's the Stones and VH (Dave and Sam) and then everyone else for me..part of my childhood just died today...god I fucking hate October..
SRV>>>>>EVH

Oh yeah, I agree with that..I can agree with that also. I respect SRV a lot and I am not a big fan of him in that I just haven't listened to a lot of his catalogue of work. I have seen and listened to enough though that I would put him above Eddie.

I will stand by this though Van Halen, the band is greater than SRV and Double Trouble.
I'm still stunned. I only found out about this a couple hours ago. I've have the headphones on since...and yes rossi, "Eruption" was first on the playlist.
Rest In Peace Eddie.

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I have Sirius but the $8 a month deal only for streaming music, I could care less if I ever hear Howard Stern again, but I did read on a Hagar board today that Stern did a tribute to Eddie and said he heard from Sammy that Eddie and Sammy had been talking this year and buried the hatchet and that made me feel some better. Also saw where Wolfie actually posted on Mikey's instagram last night, apparently all of them had made up..

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I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.

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srossi wrote: I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.
No way...Jump is bigger..."Beat It" was huge at the time and Thriller was a bigger album but Jump is played EVERYWHERE still to this day, Beat it isn't..my 16 year old nephew knows Jump but he's prob never even heard Beat it

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srossi wrote: I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.Yeah have you been sniffing glue again? Beat It was a big deal but Jump was huge. Plus AOR stations played the shit out of Dance the Night Away, You Really Got Me, I'll Wait, and tons of other VH stuff. Why don't you go back inside and put on your Snoopy & the Red Baron album numbnuts.

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Jump is played on at least 4 different stations on Sirius daily..I know I've heard it on Hair Nation, Boneyard, Classic Rewind and 80's on 8....Beat it is played on 80's on 8. It's also played at almost all professional sporting events...don't think I've ever heard Beat it at an NFL game..

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If you survey just men, "Jump" wins. If you survey both sexes, then it's "Beat It".

Only time I saw them was the summer of 1988, headlining "Monsters of Rock". They were easily one of my favorites until about 1991 or so. Socially acceptable rock.

Along with Maiden's "Run to the Hills", their video for "Pretty Woman" was one of the first videos I ever saw. It's simultaneously the greatest AND worst video ever made.

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I had the Van Halen logo scribbled on every schoolbook I had from around 84-91.
RIP
Only saw them once, the 91 tour some of you guys mentioned. I didn't like the show at all, since it was 93.6% Sammy stuff (I get why) but I have always been, and always will be, in the DLR camp. Someone wrote online, that now DLR and Sammy will fight over who loved Eddie more lol. Apparently everyone in the VH camp ended on speaking terms, which is nice.
Good call Erick on the Pretty Woman video, hahaha a classic indeed!!
Favourite Van Halen song - I'll Wait. I crank that intro every time.

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Erick Von Erich wrote: If you survey just men, "Jump" wins. If you survey both sexes, then it's "Beat It".
Gotta disagree.  Most women and some men have zero clue that the solo in Beat It is EVH.  It’s not as simple as knowing Michael Jackson was singing in that Rockwell song.

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Superstar wrote: Erick Von Erich wrote: If you survey just men, "Jump" wins. If you survey both sexes, then it's "Beat It".
Gotta disagree.  Most women and some men have zero clue that the solo in Beat It is EVH.  It’s not as simple as knowing Michael Jackson was singing in that Rockwell song.

It has nothing to do with whether or not you know it’s him. The song itself is infinitely more famous, especially internationally. But even just in the U.S. amongst a much more diverse group of people. 

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My opinion is that it's pretty much a dead heat. "Beat It" was probably more iconic during the 80s, but "Jump" has aged very well and, as Married Jo said, it's compatible with so many formats.


The sound of "Jump" was so different from the earlier VH stuff and it was so radio friendly that it wound up getting heavy airplay on a lot of light rock, adult contemporary stations in early 1984. Later that summer, when "Panama" was the next single, they were stuck playing it because they'd already established that this version of VH was acceptable. So you'd get Kenny Rogers, Culture Club, and then that raunchy EVH guitar tone and "reach down, between my legs, ease the seat back..." I'm sure there were a few moms at that time who were a little put off.

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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.
No way...Jump is bigger..."Beat It" was huge at the time and Thriller was a bigger album but Jump is played EVERYWHERE still to this day, Beat it isn't..my 16 year old nephew knows Jump but he's prob never even heard Beat it

I still hear Beat It everywhere to this day and my young cousins know Beat It and never heard of Van Halen or almost any old rock groups. 

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silentkiller wrote: Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.
No way...Jump is bigger..."Beat It" was huge at the time and Thriller was a bigger album but Jump is played EVERYWHERE still to this day, Beat it isn't..my 16 year old nephew knows Jump but he's prob never even heard Beat it

I still hear Beat It everywhere to this day and my young cousins know Beat It and never heard of Van Halen or almost any old rock groups.

I’m struggling to think of one rock song that possibly reached the same stratosphere as the top 5 Michael Jackson songs, post 1982 (when “Thriller” was released). Maybe “Enter Sandman”?  Probably not even that. But I’m pretty confident that “Jump” isn’t in the discussion.  I really don’t think this debate is even close. Even in this Cancel Culture world we live in with all the pedo shit, MJ is the closest thing to a music God known to literally all that the past 3-4 generations will ever see, and I doubt we’ll ever see anything like it again considering how niche everything is now. 

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srossi wrote: silentkiller wrote: Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.
No way...Jump is bigger..."Beat It" was huge at the time and Thriller was a bigger album but Jump is played EVERYWHERE still to this day, Beat it isn't..my 16 year old nephew knows Jump but he's prob never even heard Beat it

I still hear Beat It everywhere to this day and my young cousins know Beat It and never heard of Van Halen or almost any old rock groups.

I’m struggling to think of one rock song that possibly reached the same stratosphere as the top 5 Michael Jackson songs, post 1982 (when “Thriller” was released). Maybe “Enter Sandman”?  Probably not even that. But I’m pretty confident that “Jump” isn’t in the discussion.  I really don’t think this debate is even close. Even in this Cancel Culture world we live in with all the pedo shit, MJ is the closest thing to a music God known to literally all that the past 3-4 generations will ever see, and I doubt we’ll ever see anything like it again considering how niche everything is now. 
The closest thing to a music god for the last 3 or 4 generations?
Elvis says Hi. So does Chuck Berry
Paul Mc Cartney also. And John Lennon

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I'm going to say "Jump" had a wider audience than any other Van Halen song, simply because it was the opening theme for the 1984 Cubs broadcasts. Millions in middle America who would never have heard any Van Halen were exposed to it on an almost daily basis.

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BitterOldMan wrote: srossi wrote: silentkiller wrote: Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.
No way...Jump is bigger..."Beat It" was huge at the time and Thriller was a bigger album but Jump is played EVERYWHERE still to this day, Beat it isn't..my 16 year old nephew knows Jump but he's prob never even heard Beat it

I still hear Beat It everywhere to this day and my young cousins know Beat It and never heard of Van Halen or almost any old rock groups.

I’m struggling to think of one rock song that possibly reached the same stratosphere as the top 5 Michael Jackson songs, post 1982 (when “Thriller” was released). Maybe “Enter Sandman”?  Probably not even that. But I’m pretty confident that “Jump” isn’t in the discussion.  I really don’t think this debate is even close. Even in this Cancel Culture world we live in with all the pedo shit, MJ is the closest thing to a music God known to literally all that the past 3-4 generations will ever see, and I doubt we’ll ever see anything like it again considering how niche everything is now. 
The closest thing to a music god for the last 3 or 4 generations?
Elvis says Hi. So does Chuck Berry
Paul Mc Cartney also. And John Lennon

Elvis is the last one who’s about 3 generations ago. Sorry, Chuck Berry just isn’t close and 2 members of The Beatles kinda splits that vote. They were a band, not a solo act. Individually, neither were MJ. 

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Married Jo wrote: Jump is played on at least 4 different stations on Sirius daily..I know I've heard it on Hair Nation, Boneyard, Classic Rewind and 80's on 8....Beat it is played on 80's on 8. It's also played at almost all professional sporting events...don't think I've ever heard Beat it at an NFL game..
SiriusXM also plays "Jump" on RockBar, Road Trip Radio, and its Rock & Roll Hall of Fame channels in addition to some online only stations.

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According to Quincy via his book, Eddie did 'Beat It' for a case of beer. Eddie thought 'Beat It' would reach an audience that's not his & so did MJ. Both were correct as 'Beat It' is 1 of the best, most effective & successful collaborations around. People that didn't generally listen to MJ or Van Halen now did. Good piece if immortality to be a part of

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Even today it’s a running joke on Guitar Player magazine’s excellent “No Guitar Is Safe” podcast that it’s impossible to interview any notable guitar player who works in any genre, be it jazz fusion or neo-soul, for more than an hour without Eddie Van Halen’s name coming up. Of course, even those who have zero interest in the technical aspects of guitar playing are aware of EVH’s cross-cultural influence in one significant way — the unmistakably EVH solo on Michael Jackson’s “Beat It.”

The story goes that Eddie Van Halen, who was never really a session player, didn’t want to solo against the section of the song that had been cued up for him. He wanted to solo against the chord changes in the verse, so he ended up rearranging the song in the studio without Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson knowing he was messing with the track. After he was done, the song had to be stitched back together with quite a bit of clever engineering, which was not easy in the days everything was recorded to magnetic tape. But the solo EVH came up with was so memorable and well-phrased, no one disputes it’s a highlight of Thriller, the second-bestselling record of all time.




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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: I think the craziest thing about Eddie’s career is that his biggest song and most high profile hit isn’t even a Van Halen song. It’s easily his guitar solo in “Beat It”.Yeah have you been sniffing glue again? Beat It was a big deal but Jump was huge. Plus AOR stations played the shit out of Dance the Night Away, You Really Got Me, I'll Wait, and tons of other VH stuff. Why don't you go back inside and put on your Snoopy & the Red Baron album numbnuts.
See to me Jump is an "Eddie plays the synthesizer song."  I think the keyboard stands out way more than the guitar.

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I went back to look through some old newspapers to look at the reviews of and reactions to Van Halen when they first broke out in 1978. A very interesting quote turned up.

This is from the The Utah Daily Chronicle, the student newspaper at the University of Utah, in its May 3, 1978 edition. It's their review of Van Halen's debut album.

"...while microphone extension David Roth redefines Jim Dandy and grafts Sammy Hagar onto his own distinctive vocal hijinks."



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