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 Posted: Tue Jan 19th, 2021 04:55 pm
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Spatulapup wrote: People just don't like change. Things needed to change in Hollywood, TV and things in general for minorities and women, gays. They were not being represented. Because things were being run by old white men. I watch some old reruns of TV shows and they are so White. Unless it was a Norman Lear show. 

Hollywood has 1 Indian actor that they use regularly. Dev Patel. If they create a Indian superhero Dev Patel will playing him. lol that's why things need to be updated. That's why Marvel is debuting a Asian superhero. I think it's a good thing.

I'm not disagreeing about change, it's happening and it's not a bad thing in the ways you described it above, but when everyone changes all at once it's noticeable to the point of being ridiculous. That was the point and I think Blazer's point also.

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srossi wrote: khawk wrote: Blazer wrote: srossi wrote: carpetbeggar wrote: Well he always has WWE. What's the chances he shows up at Wrestlemania again?

I doubt this year as the heat would be too much, but man, just imagine if he did and heeled on Vince?
Any wrestler associated with Trump would get the heel heat. Who is the biggest vocal Trumper(wrestler-wise) in the WWE?

I think he’s too toxic for even Vince now. This is a publicly traded company with a board. It’ll never happen. But tonight’s MLK tribute was hilarious in the over-the-top way that they did it compared to past years. 

Didn’t have a chance to watch any of it tonight, but pretty much everything is over the top at this point.  My wife watches Hallmark movies non-stop through the Christmas season.  That’s her thing, and I’ve got no issue with it other than giving her grief because the plot is generally always some variation of the same idea.  This year even she noticed (as I noticed every time I walked by) every single movie either was about a black guy/white chick or a black couple.  Really?  She’s been watching these for years, and I’ve never seen that before.  
Her other favorite show? The Bachelor.  Just started, and of course it’s a black guy this season filled with a house of white chicks.
I know I sound like creaky old racist white guy when I talk like this, but’s it’s like Hollywood just wants to social engineer their guilt trip up everyone’s ass as blatantly as possible.  
/off soapbox. I know that has nothing to do with Vince.
It’s even worse in tv commercials, at least in Canada. Every couple in one is mixed. Or gay. Black wife, East Indian husband, Asian kids.I have the same creaky old racist white guy thoughts about Hollywood as you do. I get they want to appeal to everyone, but it’s literally like white couples don’t exist in their world.(All the racially mixed couples are extremely affluent too, of course, and if they’re buying something or getting food the sales help is, of course, white. Lol)

All of the board games now have multi-racial game pieces.  So when I'm playing Candyland or Chutes & Ladders with my son and wife, my son is the white boy, I'm the black boy, and my wife is the Asian girl.  You can't get a game with 4 white people anymore.  If that doesn't say that police brutality is a myth, I don't know what does.  Back the Blue!


As I was reading this I had a flashback to 1992.  I was taking a methods course in college and we were looking at current elementary school text books.  The professor told us that it was a movement to make them more ethnically diverse.  

The people in the pictures were different races, genders, and often had a kid in a wheelchair. 

Now as I do assignments it has come even farther, the names are very ethnic.  I live in an area with very little ethnic diversity, so the names often stump my students.  They are also 8 so it may just be a lack of experience too.  I often have to explain Jose has like H sound similar to jalapeño- that is likely the only reference to that sound that that they can pull from.  

Jamal, Julio, Yan, Lei, Yuri, Pierre, Pavarti, & Jim are ally equally represented these days.



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khawk wrote: Spatulapup wrote: People just don't like change. Things needed to change in Hollywood, TV and things in general for minorities and women, gays. They were not being represented. Because things were being run by old white men. I watch some old reruns of TV shows and they are so White. Unless it was a Norman Lear show. 

Hollywood has 1 Indian actor that they use regularly. Dev Patel. If they create a Indian superhero Dev Patel will playing him. lol that's why things need to be updated. That's why Marvel is debuting a Asian superhero. I think it's a good thing.

I'm not disagreeing about change, it's happening and it's not a bad thing in the ways you described it above, but when everyone changes all at once it's noticeable to the point of being ridiculous. That was the point and I think Blazer's point also.


I agree 100% with both of you.  



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There is a billboard not too far from where I live that shows a white guy with a black lady & some type of Asian kid as if it were some type of family structure. Ad is either for life or auto insurance. When I look at demographics of my town it’s 90.5% white, 3.9% black & 3.1% Asian. I don’t think it’s representation that people complain about it’s over representation to the point of absurdity. If that type of family really lives anywhere near me I’d like to meet them

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Infamous wrote: I don’t think it’s representation that people complain about it’s over representation to the point of absurdity.
Yeah, this.

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Infamous wrote:  I don’t think it’s representation that people complain about it’s over representation to the point of absurdity. If that type of family really lives anywhere near me I’d like to meet them
That's exactly it..



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khawk wrote: Infamous wrote: I don’t think it’s representation that people complain about it’s over representation to the point of absurdity.
Yeah, this.

It's definitely this, and khawk nailed it with the tv commercials too.  I've noticed it over the past couple of years.  Every single commercial goes out of its way to make white people the minority.  The other twist, which I love- whenever's there's a car ad or a cell phone and someone needs to learn more, it's always the young black guy or asian chick schoolin' the dumb-ass middle-aged white guy.  Inside the cell phone store, "You see, this is how you connect to Wi-Fi on your 5G plan, Mr. Smith! Easy as 1-2-3!"  



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Yeah, any white guy in a commercial now is the bumbling idiot...literally almost EVERY commercial...



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Since this thread started out being about Trump’s vaunted acting career, this is probably a good place to post that SAG-AFTRA is about to kick Trump out for violating their standards of conduct due to inciting the insurrection.



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Well maybe those white neighborhoods will become More tolerant if they see more and more people outside their comfort zone.

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Blazer wrote: khawk wrote: Infamous wrote: I don’t think it’s representation that people complain about it’s over representation to the point of absurdity.
Yeah, this.

It's definitely this, and khawk nailed it with the tv commercials too.  I've noticed it over the past couple of years.  Every single commercial goes out of its way to make white people the minority.  The other twist, which I love- whenever's there's a car ad or a cell phone and someone needs to learn more, it's always the young black guy or asian chick schoolin' the dumb-ass middle-aged white guy.  Inside the cell phone store, "You see, this is how you connect to Wi-Fi on your 5G plan, Mr. Smith! Easy as 1-2-3!"  

On a related note, the Jake from State Farm commercials. The person who originally played Jake when the guy is calling him at like 3 in the morning and his wife thinks he's cheating was a white dude. But once they added Chris Paul to the mix of commercials all of a sudden they switched to a black dude.



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Blazer wrote: khawk wrote: Infamous wrote: I don’t think it’s representation that people complain about it’s over representation to the point of absurdity.
Yeah, this.

It's definitely this, and khawk nailed it with the tv commercials too.  I've noticed it over the past couple of years.  Every single commercial goes out of its way to make white people the minority.  The other twist, which I love- whenever's there's a car ad or a cell phone and someone needs to learn more, it's always the young black guy or asian chick schoolin' the dumb-ass middle-aged white guy.  Inside the cell phone store, "You see, this is how you connect to Wi-Fi on your 5G plan, Mr. Smith! Easy as 1-2-3!"  

Unless it's a security alarm company. In their world, 100% of all criminals are white men. They look like they're going to audition for a Toby Keith video after the commercial shoot.



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BuddyPSHayes wrote: Blazer wrote: khawk wrote: Infamous wrote: I don’t think it’s representation that people complain about it’s over representation to the point of absurdity.
Yeah, this.

It's definitely this, and khawk nailed it with the tv commercials too.  I've noticed it over the past couple of years.  Every single commercial goes out of its way to make white people the minority.  The other twist, which I love- whenever's there's a car ad or a cell phone and someone needs to learn more, it's always the young black guy or asian chick schoolin' the dumb-ass middle-aged white guy.  Inside the cell phone store, "You see, this is how you connect to Wi-Fi on your 5G plan, Mr. Smith! Easy as 1-2-3!"  

Unless it's a security alarm company. In their world, 100% of all criminals are white men. They look like they're going to audition for a Toby Keith video after the commercial shoot.

That's Presidential Freedom Award Winner Toby Keith, to you.



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