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 Posted: Mon Jan 25th, 2021 09:39 pm
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Kriss wrote: Married Jo wrote: this is awesome for me. My girlfriend's SIL gets the Network so he and his daughter can watch the PPV's. They don't have access to broadband to stream where he lives so he pays for it and they come and watch the PPV's at my house. So now I get the full Peacock streaming for nothing...awesome..

Does he live in 1993?

Some Americans still use dialup and have no access to high speed internet even if they wanted it.



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 Posted: Mon Jan 25th, 2021 09:54 pm
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Franchise wrote: Kriss wrote: Franchise wrote: cookie32723 wrote: Franchise wrote: Boz1515 wrote: I find it a bit irritating that WWE shut down their DVD department.  I would have gladly bought seasons of Saturday Night's Main Event, Prime Time Wrestling, etc. on dvd.  They are already digitized, and if they were $20 a season I would buy those.  Maybe I'm the only one.  It seems like every other tv show can pull this off.


I would gladly pay, even over pay to a point if could get chronological and complete. 

Same here. Sadly, this is even more unlikely than us getting additional classic content on the network. 



The E should have set up a Kickstarter type thing for $500,000 for a bad year like 1995 WWF or 1991 WCW with $750 getting you the full run to gauge Interest. 

I am very doubtful that there is enough interest to generate that sort of money. 75 people would crowdfund the $750 with the promise to share copies, and the Kickstarter would get a total of $750.

What I am surprised about is that WWE never got into discs on-demand. Movie studios do that a lot with classic movies, the disc is only pressed when you buy it, so there's no problems with stock sitting around unsold.


My understanding with kick starter type items was that nothing was released until the goal was reached. I could be wrong and if I am then what I was saying was they should have offered a year at a price and not released anything until the money goal was met. 

Kickstarter is meant for entrepreneurs who really need the money, but billion dollar corporations. I know some companies take advantage but that's really bastardizing the intent of crowd-sourcing and taking away attention from those that need it. 



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I feel like if they were going to do season sets of Superstars of Wrestling or Challenge or Prime Time, that would have and should have happened around 2007-2008. Now, the ship has sailed.

I've got a Sterlite bin of dvds with most of the major shows from the 80s and early 90s. I'm still trying to fill in some gaps, either things I never saw because I was at college and no access to cable, or things I used to have on VHS and want to get back. I've got enough content to probably last me a decade if I wanted to rewatch it all from the start.


It's funny though, as much as the old content makes them no money, it's all I'm interested in and don't really care about anything post 2010.



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Blazer wrote: I feel like if they were going to do season sets of Superstars of Wrestling or Challenge or Prime Time, that would have and should have happened around 2007-2008. Now, the ship has sailed.

I've got a Sterlite bin of dvds with most of the major shows from the 80s and early 90s. I'm still trying to fill in some gaps, either things I never saw because I was at college and no access to cable, or things I used to have on VHS and want to get back. I've got enough content to probably last me a decade if I wanted to rewatch it all from the start.


It's funny though, as much as the old content makes them no money, it's all I'm interested in and don't really care about anything post 2010.

It’ll be interesting to see what the replay value is for anything past the Attitude Era in 20-30 years. People will AJ ways be nostalgic for what they watched as kids but with the demo being so old now a lot of ‘80s fans are going to die out at the same time as 2000s fans. I don’t see too many people waxing poetically about Cena vs. JBL in  2050. 



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Educate me, so when it was an on demand service, subscribers were able to save things they wanted to dvd.  Is there a reasonably easy way to archive anything you might wish to watch down the road, like the all star wrestling run?

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Kriss wrote: What I am surprised about is that WWE never got into discs on-demand. Movie studios do that a lot with classic movies, the disc is only pressed when you buy it, so there's no problems with stock sitting around unsold.
Yes, this was the answer.  I've purchased some obscure stuff like this before.  WWE really missed the boat on this one.

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Kriss wrote: Franchise wrote: cookie32723 wrote: Franchise wrote: Boz1515 wrote: I find it a bit irritating that WWE shut down their DVD department.  I would have gladly bought seasons of Saturday Night's Main Event, Prime Time Wrestling, etc. on dvd.  They are already digitized, and if they were $20 a season I would buy those.  Maybe I'm the only one.  It seems like every other tv show can pull this off.


I would gladly pay, even over pay to a point if could get chronological and complete. 

Same here. Sadly, this is even more unlikely than us getting additional classic content on the network. 



The E should have set up a Kickstarter type thing for $500,000 for a bad year like 1995 WWF or 1991 WCW with $750 getting you the full run to gauge Interest. 

I am very doubtful that there is enough interest to generate that sort of money. 75 people would crowdfund the $750 with the promise to share copies, and the Kickstarter would get a total of $750.

What I am surprised about is that WWE never got into discs on-demand. Movie studios do that a lot with classic movies, the disc is only pressed when you buy it, so there's no problems with stock sitting around unsold.


My understanding with kick starter type items was that nothing was released until the goal was reached. I could be wrong and if I am then what I was saying was they should have offered a year at a price and not released anything until the money goal was met. 

Kickstarter is meant for entrepreneurs who really need the money, but billion dollar corporations. I know some companies take advantage but that's really bastardizing the intent of crowd-sourcing and taking away attention from those that need it. 


Forget Kickstarter I was just using it as an example of a concept to raise money and ensure they covered the costs before they released. The E could have said “you want this? Pay me this and when the group reaches the goal we release”. 



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Gone_Fishing wrote: Educate me, so when it was an on demand service, subscribers were able to save things they wanted to dvd.  Is there a reasonably easy way to archive anything you might wish to watch down the road, like the all star wrestling run?When it was On Demand, you could record it to your VCR or DVD recorder.  The things on the Network don't work like that - I mean, I know it can be done because back in 2014 I used my SCART cable in the back of my PS3 and just fed the Red/Yellow/White cable into my DVD recorder and hit Record.  But you can download things direct from WWE Network using a program called LetMeAtIt.  It's free but the free program is a pain in the balls.  Just send the guy the $8 or so that he asks for it and you get an unlocked version that allows you to download entire groups of content pretty much with a couple of clicks.  That's how I got everything I wanted.  It is in MP4 format, so to make a playable DVD out of it takes a bit of work...but you can just save to DVDs and use like a data disc on a lot of newer DVD players, or burn to a Blu Ray and you are golden.  The quality is basically as good as broadcast, you can't see the difference between what you downloaded and what you watched on the Network.  I haven't subscribed in well over a year and would love to get in quickly and grab anything new that I've missed but I just don't have time in January, and in February I'm going on vacation for a week so there's probably no shot at getting it done.  I think the last good thing I picked up were the Mid South house shows/house show matches that they put up right as they upgraded the site.  I hated the new site, was so difficult to find shit.



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If WWE is sold to an outsider, it'll be after Vince is underground. He's hell-bent on keeping it in the family.



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Superstar wrote: Gone_Fishing wrote: Educate me, so when it was an on demand service, subscribers were able to save things they wanted to dvd.  Is there a reasonably easy way to archive anything you might wish to watch down the road, like the all star wrestling run?When it was On Demand, you could record it to your VCR or DVD recorder.  The things on the Network don't work like that - I mean, I know it can be done because back in 2014 I used my SCART cable in the back of my PS3 and just fed the Red/Yellow/White cable into my DVD recorder and hit Record.  But you can download things direct from WWE Network using a program called LetMeAtIt.  It's free but the free program is a pain in the balls.  Just send the guy the $8 or so that he asks for it and you get an unlocked version that allows you to download entire groups of content pretty much with a couple of clicks.  That's how I got everything I wanted.  It is in MP4 format, so to make a playable DVD out of it takes a bit of work...but you can just save to DVDs and use like a data disc on a lot of newer DVD players, or burn to a Blu Ray and you are golden.  The quality is basically as good as broadcast, you can't see the difference between what you downloaded and what you watched on the Network.  I haven't subscribed in well over a year and would love to get in quickly and grab anything new that I've missed but I just don't have time in January, and in February I'm going on vacation for a week so there's probably no shot at getting it done.  I think the last good thing I picked up were the Mid South house shows/house show matches that they put up right as they upgraded the site.  I hated the new site, was so difficult to find shit.Interesting... after the network started, I gave up trying to acquire discs..obviously I’m guessing the newer playstations wouldn’t record to a dvd recorder?   

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BuddyPSHayes wrote: If WWE is sold to an outsider, it'll be after Vince is underground. He's hell-bent on keeping it in the family.
I’m less convinced of this now than ever before. I really think we’re going to look back at this day in a few years as the beginning of the end of WWE as we knew it. 



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srossi wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: If WWE is sold to an outsider, it'll be after Vince is underground. He's hell-bent on keeping it in the family.
I’m less convinced of this now than ever before. I really think we’re going to look back at this day in a few years as the beginning of the end of WWE as we knew it. 

Agreed.  The way things are now, the company may not be in as good of a spot when the tv deals expire.  I'm under the assumption Vince knows that (probably would never admit it out loud), but wants to go out "on top," not in decline.  I could see him moving it before then, and a scenario similar to what happened with WCW playing out over the following 10 years or so.

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Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: If WWE is sold to an outsider, it'll be after Vince is underground. He's hell-bent on keeping it in the family.
I’m less convinced of this now than ever before. I really think we’re going to look back at this day in a few years as the beginning of the end of WWE as we knew it. 

Agreed.  The way things are now, the company may not be in as good of a spot when the tv deals expire.  I'm under the assumption Vince knows that (probably would never admit it out loud), but wants to go out "on top," not in decline.  I could see him moving it before then, and a scenario similar to what happened with WCW playing out over the following 10 years or so.


Yep I agree with all of this. I never thought so until the last year or so, but with the way the business is going I wouldn’t be too surprised to one day pick up my phone and read that Vince has sold WWE to NBC.  And to Rossi’s point, today’s announcement is the first step towards this becoming reality. 



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silentkiller wrote: Kriss wrote: Married Jo wrote: this is awesome for me. My girlfriend's SIL gets the Network so he and his daughter can watch the PPV's. They don't have access to broadband to stream where he lives so he pays for it and they come and watch the PPV's at my house. So now I get the full Peacock streaming for nothing...awesome..

Does he live in 1993?

Some Americans still use dialup and have no access to high speed internet even if they wanted it.


I am not sure of the situation in this case, but those without access to broadband internet due to technical reasons typically reside in rural or exurban areas. Generally broadband internet is usually provided either by a phone company or cable TV carrier although there are some satellite broadband internet providers outside of those sectors. In some places it isn't possible for the phone and cable carriers to reach out as far as is necessary to serve those customer bases. In the case of the remaining mom & pop cable companies, they might not have the capital to invest in that infrastructure. 

A lot of people in these areas use a satellite TV carrier like Dish and DirecTV. In the case of the latter, they're phasing out the satellites with no plans to launch new ones and plan to retire the ones in orbit once they reach the end of their service life. DirecTV, possibly with AT&T branding, will phase customers to a streaming model. That will hit hard in areas that don't have the broadband necessary to stream that kind of content, but the company might hope to make it up by getting customers in urban and suburban areas that want the content without having the dish or who can't get clearance for their dish to the sky.

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Was watching this using the US stream. Peacock is geo-blocked here, which means I gotta get a VPN and Router.

Gonna binge as much as I can til the move



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