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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 01:02 am |
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Angelic Assassin
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Blazer wrote: khawk wrote:85 AWA was still doing good business so I imagine the payoffs were still ok. April, May and June of 1985, with some Mid South appearances sprinkled in and in Quebec for a few shows.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 01:16 am |
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Spatulapup
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AWA was still fine through the end of 1985 but when they Lost Rick Martel, The Road Warriors, The Freebirds, Jimmy Garvin all around the same time it cut out a good chunk of top level talent. And it was never the same. The popular opinion is that the AWA was done when Hogan, Okerland, Ventura, Patera left but that's not true. Last edited on Sun Feb 7th, 2021 01:19 am by Spatulapup |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 01:19 am |
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khawk Hall Of Famer 
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Blazer wrote: khawk wrote:Yeah, sporadic is a good word.85 AWA was still doing good business so I imagine the payoffs were still ok.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 01:30 am |
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broke
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83 Reed in Mid South as a heel - absolute money
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 01:58 am |
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BuddyPSHayes
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Angelic Assassin wrote: GregOliver wrote:I searched and searched, but I think his NFL claims were ballyhoo. Hard to imagine anything like that would be exaggerated in pro wrestling, eh? Anyone know different? There's no Bruce Reed or Butch Reed listed in Pro-Football-Reference. His feud with JYD was legendary. RIP Last edited on Sun Feb 7th, 2021 01:59 am by BuddyPSHayes ____________________  "The only area I can think of to avoid in Houston is Houston." - srossi |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 02:18 am |
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GregOliver
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I'm actually running a rant tomorrow on Super Bowl Sunday about how no one did any due diligence on his football career, and I did, and it was fairly typical wrestling hype. BuddyPSHayes wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote:GregOliver wrote:I searched and searched, but I think his NFL claims were ballyhoo. Hard to imagine anything like that would be exaggerated in pro wrestling, eh? Anyone know different?
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 02:26 am |
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Principal_Raditch
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I'd like to know what he did for the 8/9 months between leaving WWF and hitting WCW
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 04:17 am |
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Benlen
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BuddyPSHayes wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote:Only thing I could find is signed in May and cut in July in 1976 by the chiefs.GregOliver wrote:I searched and searched, but I think his NFL claims were ballyhoo. Hard to imagine anything like that would be exaggerated in pro wrestling, eh? Anyone know different?
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 05:33 am |
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Portalesman Hall Of Famer 
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Such a good rassler to be remembered mostly for saying DAAMMMNNN a lot.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 02:21 pm |
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GregOliver
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Generally, I don't let myself "rant" when it comes to pro wrestling, as it's not worth the hassle. But this was something different, and has to do with facts and Butch Reed's non-existent NFL days. Take the time to read the column at SlamWrestling.net, to comment, and feel free to pass it on to any site you see repeating the error. https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2021/02/07/mat-matters-its-football-so-get-the-facts-right-on-reed/ And thanks to those on here who sort of poked me to look even deeper.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 02:44 pm |
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Blazer Head Auditor, CPA 
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GregOliver wrote: Generally, I don't let myself "rant" when it comes to pro wrestling, as it's not worth the hassle. But this was something different, and has to do with facts and Butch Reed's non-existent NFL days. Take the time to read the column at SlamWrestling.net, to comment, and feel free to pass it on to any site you see repeating the error. You do great work, so I don’t mean to sound picky here. Wasn’t it fairly common practice to make claims about 70s and 80s wrestlers playing in the NFL even if it was just a stint in Training Camp. I think we’ve verified Wahoo played in an actual NFL or AFL game, but what about guys like Neidhart, Tito, Luger (USFL? CFL?), etc. I’m missing others, I’m sure. I always assumed these were guys that had a cup of coffee in camp or the practice squad.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 02:52 pm |
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GregOliver
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I'm fine with whatever they claimed during their pro wrestling days, especially in the kayfabe world pre-1987-ish. But if you are writing an obituary, the facts need to be facts. Period. Luger played in the CFL and USFL. In fact, he and Ron Simmons were on the same teams, first in Montreal, and then in Tampa Bay in the USFL, and we have Simmons talking about that in this piece: https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2015/07/03/its-damn-hard-being-ron-simmons/ When I get to talk to these guys, I love to get their memories of playing football too. My Santana piece, where he played 13 games for the B.C. Lions in the CFL as a tight end: https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/1998/07/20/santana-relishes-relaxed-schedule/ Roman Reigns detailed his CFL days for us too: https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2013/10/10/football-was-roman-reigns-first-love/ The rant is really more about all the insta-re-posters that are out there, running their little wrestling sites, who have zero journalism training, and their main skills appear to be copying from other sites. Unfortunately, it's not just in pro wrestling, but that is our world.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 02:59 pm |
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Angelic Assassin
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Blazer wrote: GregOliver wrote:Generally, I don't let myself "rant" when it comes to pro wrestling, as it's not worth the hassle. But this was something different, and has to do with facts and Butch Reed's non-existent NFL days. Take the time to read the column at SlamWrestling.net, to comment, and feel free to pass it on to any site you see repeating the error. With Wahoo, Tito, Luger and others there is verifiable evidence of the claims they played pro football in one league or another. With Bruce Reed and Jim Neidhart and countless others they may have been in NFL, CFL, USFL or other pro leagues through training camp and even a pre season game but since little records exist of pre season football game rosters and stats other than the scores anyone could reasonably make such a claim. The car jumper Crimson Mask might have been a pro football player. Somewhere on the interwebs I seem to remember seeing a thread or two that discussed who's pro football claims were real or bogus. Can't remember where.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 03:37 pm |
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Spatulapup
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it's too bad we don't have more footage of Butch from Georgia and Florida.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2021 03:46 pm |
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One Fan Gang
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My recollection is during his early promotional push in the Magazines, they told the story of him defeating Gene kiniski in his debut match, which I assume would be up in Vancouver in 1979. I remember the report of him being a Co winner of a Battle Royal with Andre the Giant in St Louis as my first awareness of Reed.
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