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Anyone have an idea how far back WWF broadcasted/taped and commentated on MSG Network? They aired a 1973 broadcast on the 24/7 on demand channel a few months ago.

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I'd bet my house that the earliest show they have complete is the 6/30/73 show thats been shown at 5 billion times.

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I agree with Wong.  However, didn't somebody once say that a full MSG show aired live on Channel 9 in the 1960's?  Maybe 1966?  I wasn't even born then but it would be interesting if that was ever shown.

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The 1966 show is jogging a memory in my brain. Let me use google and the KM search before I post anything more.

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HBF wrote: I agree with Wong.  However, didn't somebody once say that a full MSG show aired live on Channel 9 in the 1960's?  Maybe 1966?  I wasn't even born then but it would be interesting if that was ever shown.

The show aired in Chicago too on WFLD channel 32. Details from KM,

"12/12/66 Att. 12,029.
Sammartino over Tank Morgan, 2 straight.
Brazil, Apollo, Pugliese over Bill Miller, Ortega, Scicluna. It was 3/5 falls, I think it went 4 with a dq. of the heels somewhere along the line.
Crazy Luke Graham over Louie Cerdan.
Arion beat Sloan.
Sheik beat Sexton.
Hussein pinned Nero.*
Savoldi over Gonzalez.*
Brower over Perez.*
*not televised, IIRC.  "

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Plus, wasn't the 6/30/73 MSG show aired on HBO.  I think HBO did the honors for the 4/75 MSG show that is airing now on WWE 24/7.  Exactly when did the MSG network come into existence?

My guess is that they have recorded cards that didn't neccessary have commentary on it and was filmed in 8mm (Morales/Koloff comes to mind). But video recording the MSG shows may very well have started with the 6/73 MSG show.

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When did Vince Jr debut as a commentator, what is MSG or another tv taping?

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I lived in West Caldwell, NJ in 1976, which is not far from Newark, and we first got cable in 1976.  I can't imagine a lot of the area had it much longer than that.

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dcsoulchild wrote: Plus, wasn't the 6/30/73 MSG show aired on HBO.  I think HBO did the honors for the 4/75 MSG show that is airing now on WWE 24/7.  Exactly when did the MSG network come into existence?

My guess is that they have recorded cards that didn't neccessary have commentary on it and was filmed in 8mm (Morales/Koloff comes to mind). But video recording the MSG shows may very well have started with the 6/73 MSG show.


Taken from the MSG Network, Wiki article:

History

What would become MSG debuted on October 15, 1969 with a game between the Rangers and the Minnesota North Stars. MSG Network, thus, became the first regional sports network in North America, and one of the first of its kind in the world.
The channel, which at the time was not even named, was carried by Manhattan Cable Television under a one-year, 125-event deal that was signed in May 1969. At the time, the cable company, which had televised Knickerbocker and Ranger post-season games the previous spring for a $25,000 rights fee, had only 13,000 subscribers.[1]
The Garden renewed the deal with the cable company, then called Sterling Manhattan Cable Television, in the fall of 1970 for five years at an estimated rights fee of $1m to $1.5m. Charles Dolan, who later headed MSG and Cablevision, was the president of the cable company at the time.[2]
In 1972, the network was owned by Gulf+Western along with its namesake sports arena; the company would rename to Paramount Communications in 1989.
Games from the Garden later appeared throughout the early days of Home Box Office. By 1978, the first mentions of the "temporarily named" Madison Square Garden Network appeared in print. [3]


By the mid-1980s, MSG was using both the full name "Madison Square Garden Network" and its new abbreviated form. By the early 1990s, the channel's name became MSG. In the mid-90s, MSG used the slogan "The Best in the Game". In 1994, Paramount Communications was acquired by Viacom, who in turn sold it to Cablevision and ITT Corporation, which had 50% ownership each. ITT would sell its share to Cablevision three years later.


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We got HBO in 1975 and all the MSG shows were on HBO until 1979 or 1080.  They also had an occassional Boston or Hartford or Providence show on.

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dcsoulchild wrote:
My guess is that they have recorded cards that didn't neccessary have commentary on it and was filmed in 8mm (Morales/Koloff comes to mind). But video recording the MSG shows may very well have started with the 6/73 MSG show.

It's certainly possible that they could have taped shows without commentary. However, it wouldn't have been in 8mm as that was the medium used by home movie cameras of the day. All the 8mm films you see were taken from private collections mostly from guys with kickass seats. These guys would no doubt be using the same cameras they used to film little Johnny's first communion and little Sally's deflowering at the hands of Uncle Jed.

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WongLee wrote: dcsoulchild wrote:
My guess is that they have recorded cards that didn't neccessary have commentary on it and was filmed in 8mm (Morales/Koloff comes to mind). But video recording the MSG shows may very well have started with the 6/73 MSG show.

These guys would no doubt be using the same cameras they used to film little   Sally's deflowering at the hands of Uncle Jed.

:shock:

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carpetbeggar wrote: WongLee wrote: dcsoulchild wrote:
My guess is that they have recorded cards that didn't neccessary have commentary on it and was filmed in 8mm (Morales/Koloff comes to mind). But video recording the MSG shows may very well have started with the 6/73 MSG show.

These guys would no doubt be using the same cameras they used to film little   Sally's deflowering at the hands of Uncle Jed.

:shock:

Oh well sure, if you take it out of context its going to look a bad thing.

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Wasn't there a '66 or '67 MSG show on ABC's "Wide World of Sports?" If it indeed happened, could that be what people are remembering?

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WongLee wrote:
dcsoulchild wrote:
My guess is that they have recorded cards that didn't neccessary have commentary on it and was filmed in 8mm (Morales/Koloff comes to mind). But video recording the MSG shows may very well have started with the 6/73 MSG show.

It's certainly possible that they could have taped shows without commentary. However, it wouldn't have been in 8mm as that was the medium used by home movie cameras of the day. All the 8mm films you see were taken from private collections mostly from guys with kickass seats. These guys would no doubt be using the same cameras they used to film little Johnny's first communion and little Sally's deflowering at the hands of Uncle Jed.

Well, 16mm then.



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