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 Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 08:34 pm
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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: BigJ wrote: In their defense, wtf would YOU call it?  LOL

That's Steve DiSalvo, btw.  Another of those "can't miss" guys.

a DDT?

LOL...THAT...was hardly a DDT.  Attempted maybe.  But can you really be sure that's what ol' BJ had in mind there?

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They always called the DDT a "front piledriver" in the AWA (except that Buddy Rose called his "hit the jackpot"), until Lee Marshall came along. It was their way of not giving Jake the Snake his props since he was in the WWF. Verne liked to hold Jake up as the apotheosis of what was wrong with wrestling in the "other leagues" as Verne put it. (Verne: "You don't need snakes to win a match.")

Once Lee "They're GRRREAT!!" Marshall replaced Trongard, he just called the move what 99% of wrestling fans now called it.



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Tom Magee was so odd looking in the ring. He was simultaneously athletic looking with the more gymnastic type moves and unathletic looking with his strikes and wrestling holds. You can see from the flips and the body why the WWF would think it was on to something with him, yet he lacked any sort of charisma or basic presence. It almost seemed like he was afraid of hurting his opponents with his kicks, chops, and forearms to the point of holding back so much that they looked like the kind of fake blows people use when they're horsing around and pretend to hit someone.

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Bret vs Magee video been found

https://deadspin.com/lost-tape-of-bret-harts-finest-artistic-achievement-in-1833629409?fbclid=IwAR1HorLESGHZGrJBTLs6E2qX0CNgTwfSrWZdBsbiHtkPHscwSrIzkYDcrMg



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It'll be interesting to see if it's "the" match or their other one. Hopefully it's the right one.



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Hmmmm.....It's written by Beef Bixenspan though. Not sure I can trust this.

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I'm sure Bix is wacking off to this, since the women was listening to his podcast.



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It’s funny to me that a mega fan / photographer has possibly had the match for close to 10 years with so many people looking for it.


I’ve been working my way then some old episodes of the 605 superpodcast and they were talking about contacting tv stations to see if they had old footage or something to that extent and it got me thinking has a tv station ever had any wrestling footage stored away and if so did they turn it over to the requestour? I’m sure it’s possible but it seems very unlikely to me.



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Franchise wrote: It’s funny to me that a mega fan / photographer has possibly had the match for close to 10 years with so many people looking for it.


I’ve been working my way then some old episodes of the 605 superpodcast and they were talking about contacting tv stations to see if they had old footage or something to that extent and it got me thinking has a tv station ever had any wrestling footage stored away and if so did they turn it over to the requestour? I’m sure it’s possible but it seems very unlikely to me.


Doctor Who fans have been doing the same thing in an attempt to locate the missing early episodes, and have been successful in locating footage from as far away as Australia and New Zealand. There is no knowing what TV stations hold in their archives.

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That’s interesting; Are the stations willingly turn over the footage or are they charging something for it once it is discovered that there is interest?



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Franchise wrote: That’s interesting; Are the stations willingly turn over the footage or are they charging something for it once it is discovered that there is interest?

I don't know. Articles only say that the tapes were returned to the BBC. There is also the British Film Institute's Missing Believed Wiped project which has been looking for lost footage for over 25 years.

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If it’s potentially a prosperous endevour I’m really surprised someone in the tape trading community hasn’t tried to organize a search. I’m not talking shit I’m serious, in my mind it seemed like a crazy thing but it sounds like these tactics are viable.



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Franchise wrote: If it’s potentially a prosperous endevour I’m really surprised someone in the tape trading community hasn’t tried to organize a search. I’m not talking shit I’m serious, in my mind it seemed like a crazy thing but it sounds like these tactics are viable.

"Potentially prosperous" might be an exaggeration. The BFI only find a few hour's worth of previously lost footage each year over the entire spectrum of British film and television. Also, these searching are done on behalf of the original rights owners and the footage is usually repatriated to its original owner. It would be very unclear who tape traders would be representing, and if they were to approach this on their own, the costs would far far outweigh the possible returns. It would take extraordinary desire and very deep pockets.

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Ehh then forget it, I’ll let the network do the work.



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Regarding whether a TV station would turn over the footage, my take is the station would be required to give such a tape to the legal rights holder. So if a TV station in Springfield, MA suddenly found six weeks worth of WWWF All Star Wrestling tapes from 1974 that the WWE doesn't have in its vault for some reason, the WWE could ask for and get back those tapes without there being much argument. It might get murkier in the case of a wrestling program produced at a TV station in the old studio wrestling format. If the Chattanooga TV station unearthed a 1977 tape from the old Gulas/Welch promotion, I'm not sure if the rights to the content on that tape would belong to the station or if George Gulas or some other family member might be able to lay claim to the corporate legacy of that defunct promotion.

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