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 Posted: Thu Jan 29th, 2009 05:40 pm
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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: thunderbolt wrote: I don't blame Rourke, WWE had everything to gain and he has whatever cred he has recaptured to lose.

This is exactly what I thought.  His recent re-surgence ("The Wrestler", "Sin City", "Iron Man 2") notwithstanding, as I see it, Mickey Rourke is still a bit of a pariah in Hollywood.  (It's pretty obvious why too, as he seems like a legit headcase and a bit of a degenerate, as recent TV appearances and photos--like this one--can attest.)

Personally, I can't understand why he'd want to frig up his second chance and make a mockery of his work by legitimately getting involved with the WWE.  Yeah, I know, he's his own man and blah blah blah.  But at the end of the day, acting is a business, and if you're perceived as a liability, you're not going to get hired.   

Who's the broad in the photo with him?

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Looks like Kate Winslet

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Everything he does they say it will cost him the oscar...He was seen making out with the girl that plays his daugher in the movie and they say that could cost him. So it Damn if you do, Damn if you dont.



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bpickering wrote: So it Damn if you do, Damn if you dont.
Well, no, not really.  If he "doesn't" hook up with a chick 35 years his junior, he's fine.  If he "doesn't" grab his nuts while talking to Kate Winslet, he's fine.  If he "doesn't" show up on the Graham Norton show shitfaced and shamelessly hitting on Jessic Beil, he's fine.

It's seems to be just the "do" things he has a problem with. 

 



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75% of Hollywood are drunken, pill-popping scumbags.  At least Rourke's honest about it.

The tabloid press and Hollwood love Sean Penn and to this day you won't find a bigger cokehead if you try.

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BigJ wrote: The tabloid press and Hollwood love Sean Penn and to this day you won't find a bigger cokehead if you try.

Bigger than Tony Montana?!?




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BigJ wrote: 75% of Hollywood are drunken, pill-popping scumbags.  At least Rourke's honest about it.

The tabloid press and Hollwood love Sean Penn and to this day you won't find a bigger cokehead if you try.
100% spot on.



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According to Vince & E Online, he's still in, in some capacity anyway.

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Why is the WWE considered a liability? This isn't the 1950's where wrestling is considered as low brow as it gets. The WWE is a big time major league (and I say this without any irony) entertainment empire. Is appearing in a wrestling ring in front of tens of millions PPV customers and getting a seven figure paycheck somehow more degrading than appearing in a movie about a superhero who cloaks himself in iron? Those whores out in Hollywood will hire Rourke as long as he sells tickets to their shitty movies. I would dare say that the target audience for Iron Man II and Sin City could care less that Mickey Rourke rolled around in his underwear for 15 minutes with Chris Jericho play fighting.



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WongLee wrote: Why is the WWE considered a liability? This isn't the 1950's where wrestling is considered as low brow as it gets. The WWE is a big time major league (and I say this without any irony) entertainment empire. Is appearing in a wrestling ring in front of tens of millions PPV customers and getting a seven figure paycheck somehow more degrading than appearing in a movie about a superhero who cloaks himself in iron? Those whores out in Hollywood will hire Rourke as long as he sells tickets to their shitty movies. I would dare say that the target audience for Iron Man II and Sin City could care less that Mickey Rourke rolled around in his underwear for 15 minutes with Chris Jericho play fighting.

Hey, I'm just going off of the precedence that's been set.  Historically, if a "celebrity" appears in a WWF(E) ring, they're either (a) B or C list or (b) on the downside of his career.  I can't think off one celebrity who appeared on a WWF(E) telecast who went on to win an Oscar, can you?  Hell, I can't even think of one who went on to be taken seriously at his craft ever again.  IMO, a WWE appearance by a celebrity is basically akin to a stint on a Celebreality show.  And, rightly or wrongly, I guarantee you, if Rourke makes this appearance, he's never going to be taken seriously as an actor ever again.  Oh sure, he'll appear on "Celebrity Big Brother" or some such shit, but he won't get any more Oscar-worthy roles.  

As far as your last point above, it's not the "target audience" you have to worry about...it's the producers and directors and casting agent you'd have to worry about.  They're the guys you'd have to convince, and Rourke hasn't done anyting to better his reputation.  You think, given his history, working for the WWE is going to stabilize his reputation in the eyes of Hollywood?  I sure don't. 

Darren A took a huge leap of faith on Rourke, and it paid great, great dividends.  Unfortunately, because of his looks and his personality, Rourke is limited to the roles he'd be able to play.  I've gotta think even those will dry up if he doesn't start taking his resurgence seriously.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote:
Hey, I'm just going off of the precedence that's been set.  Historically, if a "celebrity" appears in a WWF(E) ring, they're either (a) B or C list or (b) on the downside of his career.  I can't think off one celebrity who appeared on a WWF(E) telecast who went on to win an Oscar, can you?  Hell, I can't even think of one who went on to be taken seriously at his craft ever again.  IMO, a WWE appearance by a celebrity is basically akin to a stint on a Celebreality show.  And, rightly or wrongly, I guarantee you, if Rourke makes this appearance, he's never going to be taken seriously as an actor ever again.  Oh sure, he'll appear on "Celebrity Big Brother" or some such shit, but he won't get any more Oscar-worthy roles.  

As far as your last point above, it's not the "target audience" you have to worry about...it's the producers and directors and casting agent you'd have to worry about.  They're the guys you'd have to convince, and Rourke hasn't done anyting to better his reputation.  You think, given his history, working for the WWE is going to stabilize his reputation in the eyes of Hollywood?  I sure don't. 

Darren A took a huge leap of faith on Rourke, and it paid great, great dividends.  Unfortunately, because of his looks and his personality, Rourke is limited to the roles he'd be able to play.  I've gotta think even those will dry up if he doesn't start taking his resurgence seriously.


Agree completely about past Wrestlemania "celebrities"

Disagree about Rourke shooting himself in the foot for future roles. Producers, directors etc are scurvy whores the lot of them. George C. Scott and Marlon Brando shit all over the Academy and it didn't hurt them one iota. They will cast whoever will make them money. Look at Oscar winner Nicholas Cage for example. He got turned down for the very part Rourke did because it just wouldn't have worked. I'm sure Cage is a perfect Hollywood lapdog but it didn't help. Adrien Brody and Jamie Foxx haven't exactly been setting the world on fire since their best actor wins and at least in Brody's case he is much more talented than Rourke. It's who is right for the part and who will make the producers money.

My point is that two short years from now, Mickey will not be cast as Rhett Butler in the 2 trillion dollar remake of Gone with the Wind because he appeared at Wrestlemania, he will not be cast for the plum parts because his second 15 minutes will have been up.



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bpickering wrote: Well the Oscars are feb 22...so he can agree to do the match after they would still have a full month to build the match.
i think that the match will still happen also.



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WongLee wrote:
Why is the WWE considered a liability? This isn't the 1950's where wrestling is considered as low brow as it gets.
The ad rates that're charged for WWE programming say otherwise.

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Bix wrote: WongLee wrote:
Why is the WWE considered a liability? This isn't the 1950's where wrestling is considered as low brow as it gets.
The ad rates that're charged for WWE programming say otherwise.

Yeah I hear what you're saying. Obviously IBM and General Motors are not rushing to advertise their wares on RAW. However, serious bank is still being made for primetime ad rates for one of cable TV's highest rated weekly shows. 



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WongLee wrote:
Bix wrote: WongLee wrote:
Why is the WWE considered a liability? This isn't the 1950's where wrestling is considered as low brow as it gets.
The ad rates that're charged for WWE programming say otherwise.

Yeah I hear what you're saying. Obviously IBM and General Motors are not rushing to advertise their wares on RAW. However, serious bank is still being made for primetime ad rates for one of cable TV's highest rated weekly shows. 

I don't know about that. The other USA shows with lower numbers get better ads. Plus, think about the ridiculously low rent ads that the SNME specials on NBC have gotten during their most recent run.

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