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 Posted: Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 08:54 am
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khawk wrote: tamalie wrote: Even though Phoenix is on the brink, would the NHL really let that team fail? As bad as the NHL comes across due to having some weak clubs, it would arguably look worse if a team folded.

 

It's bleeding money and the other owners are being asked to prop it up for Bettman's sake. They'll only allow that for so long.

Short-term, the league might look bad if some teams went bye-bye, but it would only benefit the game and the other owners in the long-term and when it comes down to $$$ for the owners, that's all that matters in the end.

It's not going to happen.  They did not let Ottawa or Buffalo go when they basically went tits up a few years back, and it has Gretzky pimping for it......saying that, I would like to see about 24 teams in the NHL, Fuck Phoenix.



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khawk wrote: tamalie wrote: Even though Phoenix is on the brink, would the NHL really let that team fail? As bad as the NHL comes across due to having some weak clubs, it would arguably look worse if a team folded.

 

It's bleeding money and the other owners are being asked to prop it up for Bettman's sake. They'll only allow that for so long.

Short-term, the league might look bad if some teams went bye-bye, but it would only benefit the game and the other owners in the long-term and when it comes down to $$$ for the owners, that's all that matters in the end.

i read last night that there is another investor willing to help out with the bills in Phoenix.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: khawk wrote:
i read last night that there is another investor willing to help out with the bills in Phoenix.


There has been a lot of speculation in the press that this investor is a sock created by Bettman to fuel his "EVERYTHING IS FINE, NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!" fire with the yotes.

 It wouldn't surprise me, frankly.



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It didn’t get very serious, but around 1981 or so, the NBA considered dumping some of its weak sister teams. The idea was that by putting down some chronically struggling teams that seemed to have largely zero hope of ever getting better, the NBA would gain overall strength, especially by concentrating talent on the remaining teams. Needless to say, the union was not thrilled about this idea and it didn't go anywhere. 

The teams scheduled for folding, some of which subsequently became model teams, were the San Diego Clippers, Utah Jazz, Kansas City Kings, Cleveland Cavaliers, Indiana Pacers, Atlanta Hawks, and New Jersey Nets. None of these teams drew. Most of them were mediocre to horrible on the floor. Many of them were on the brink of folding anyway. 

The NBA then would have looked like this.

Eastern Conference

Atlantic Division
Boston Celtics
New York Knicks
Philadelphia 76ers
Washington Bullets

Central Division
Chicago Bulls
Denver Nuggets
Detroit Pistons
Milwaukee Bucks

Western Conference

Southwest Division
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
Phoenix Suns
San Antonio Spurs

Pacific Division
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Portland Trailblazers
Seattle Supersonics

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As much as "Utah Jazz" is a contradiction in terms, it's still a better name than the Utah Teetotaling Polygamists.



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As a Pirate fan since 1969 (ok maybe longer I just don't remember) I would never want to seethe Bucs moved.  they have a long tradition in the city of Pittsburgh.  That being said the current ownership should be eliminated and forced to sell to someone like Mark Cuban who would spend the $$ to make them competitive again.   But if you have to move them Charlotte would be a close drive for me to see more games.  With a money making new ball park they are not going any where.



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Count Grog wrote:  a Pirate fan since 1969

Look, our own version of Travlr. :)

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Any NHL Franchise further south then St. Louis, or Washington.


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tamalie wrote: It didn’t get very serious, but around 1981 or so, the NBA considered dumping some of its weak sister teams. The idea was that by putting down some chronically struggling teams that seemed to have largely zero hope of ever getting better, the NBA would gain overall strength, especially by concentrating talent on the remaining teams. Needless to say, the union was not thrilled about this idea and it didn't go anywhere. 

The teams scheduled for folding, some of which subsequently became model teams, were the San Diego Clippers, Utah Jazz, Kansas City Kings, Cleveland Cavaliers, Indiana Pacers, Atlanta Hawks, and New Jersey Nets. None of these teams drew. Most of them were mediocre to horrible on the floor. Many of them were on the brink of folding anyway. 

The NBA then would have looked like this.

Eastern Conference

Atlantic Division
Boston Celtics
New York Knicks
Philadelphia 76ers
Washington Bullets

Central Division
Chicago Bulls
Denver Nuggets
Detroit Pistons
Milwaukee Bucks

Western Conference

Southwest Division
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
Phoenix Suns
San Antonio Spurs

Pacific Division
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Portland Trailblazers
Seattle Supersonics

I think that would have been a terrific move if the league had done that.



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khawk wrote: Count Grog wrote:  a Pirate fan since 1969

Look, our own version of Travlr. :)

"The reason so many of us complain is becasue Mr. Stargell spoiled us."--Barry Jordan

lmfao

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What is the current status of the Phoenix Coyotes? Are they going to make it in Arizona, move elsewhere or just shut down?

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khawk wrote: Count Grog wrote:  a Pirate fan since 1969

Look, our own version of Travlr. :)

"The reason so many of us complain is becasue Mr. Stargell spoiled us."--Barry Jordan


LOL! 

 

That is funny!



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tamalie wrote: What is the current status of the Phoenix Coyotes? Are they going to make it in Arizona, move elsewhere or just shut down?
they will stay in Phoenix. they are getting help soon.



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