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 Posted: Sun May 31st, 2009 05:42 pm
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Well this is certainly messed up.

http://www.kansas.com/news/breaking/story/833730.html


WICHITA - George Tiller, the Wichita doctor who became a national lightning rod in the debate over abortion, was shot to death this morning as he walked into church services.
Tiller, 67, was shot just after 10 a.m. at Reformation Lutheran Church at 7601 E. 13th, where he was a member of the congregation. Witnesses and a police source confirmed Tiller was the victim.
No information has been released about whether a suspect is in custody. Police said they are looking for white male who was driving a 1990s powder blue Ford Taurus with Kansas license plate 225 BAB.
Homicide detectives and Sedgwick County District Attorney Nola Foulston arrived at the church after the shooting.
Members of the congregation who were inside the sanctuary at the time of the shooting were being kept inside the church by police, and those arriving were being ushered into the parking lot. Witnesses are being transported downtown for interviews and other members of the congregation are slowly being released from inside the sanctuary.
Tiller has long been a focal point of protest by abortion opponents because his clinic, Women's Health Care Services at 5701 E. Kellogg, is one of the few in the country where late-term abortions are performed.
"We are shocked at this morning's disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down," anti-abortion group Operation Rescue said in a statement on its Web site. "Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning. We pray for Mr. Tiller's family that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ."
Protesters blockaded Tiller's clinic during Operation Rescue's "Summer of Mercy" protests during the summer of 1991, and Tiller was shot by Rachelle Shannon at his clinic in 1993. Tiller was wounded in both arms, and Shannon remains in prison for the shooting.
Tiller's clinic was severely vandalized earlier this month. According to the Associated Press, his lawyer said wires to security cameras and outdoor lights were cut and that the vandals also cut through the roof and plugged the buildings' downspouts. Rain poured through the roof and caused thousands of dollars of damage in the clinic. Tiller reportedly asked the FBI to investigate the incident.
Sgt. Bart Brunscheen of the Wichita Police Department said there has been no activitiy today at Tiller's clinic, although security crews were being brought in to make sure the building was secure. Officials also were going to check the clinic's security cameras to see whether there was any activity over night.
Tiller and his clinic have faced continuous threats and lawsuits. A Wichita jury ruled in March that he was not guilty of illegal abortion on 19 criminal charges he faced for allegedly violating a state law requiring an "independent" second physician's concurring opinion before performing later term abortions. Immediately following the ruling in this criminal case, the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts made public a similar complaint against Tiller that was originally filed in December 2008.



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never mind

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This is what scares me about right wingers in general and "pro life" folks specifically. No one ever directly tells them to go out and kill people, they just get constantly bombarded by propaganda telling them certain groups are evil and must be stopped, which in a mind that probably isn't wrapped too tight to begin with is a green light to violence.

I'm honestly surprised more left wing groups/people aren't the targets of shootings or other violence considering some of the rhetoric out there.



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Not that it isn't an entirely rational assumption to make - but isn't the information a bit sparse to be indicting right wingers based just on that article?



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thunderbolt wrote: Not that it isn't an entirely rational assumption to make - but isn't the information a bit sparse to be indicting right wingers based just on that article?

No.



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Instead of "right wingers," I would say that the "neo-conservatives" have a platform which reaches out to fringe groups who include violence as an answer, be it through war, terroristic acts or assassinations.  Anytime you begin mixing religion with a political platform, you begin stirring the pot for violence.



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I just find it comical that a guy that performs late term abortions is going to church...who's he trying to kid?



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Married Jo wrote: I just find it comical that a guy that performs late term abortions is going to church...who's he trying to kid?
Seriously?

That said I'm curious if he had any prior conflicts in church.

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Married Jo wrote: I just find it comical that a guy that performs late term abortions is going to church...who's he trying to kid?

Jesus.....he is trying to kid......Jesus



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I mean, I'm sorry, but a late-term abortion doctor being active in a Christian church is like a hardcore muslim working in a sausage factory during the day...



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 They didn't specify what types of late term abortions. It could've been cases where "if we don't abort the pregnancy now, the mother dies." Some wing nuts would rather the mother and child die.

This situation reminds me of an early 90s Spider Man comic where Venom and Spidey are teaming up against Carnage. Venom yells out "the killing must end. I'll even kill to end it." There's your spokesman for this kind of right-wing though process: Venom.



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Generally speaking, fully elective late term abortions are pretty much nil, so...

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Abortion = Debatable Morality

Murdering a Living, Breathing Person = Always Wrong



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Kid_Naitch wrote:  They didn't specify what types of late term abortions. It could've been cases where "if we don't abort the pregnancy now, the mother dies." Some wing nuts would rather the mother and child die.

This situation reminds me of an early 90s Spider Man comic where Venom and Spidey are teaming up against Carnage. Venom yells out "the killing must end. I'll even kill to end it." There's your spokesman for this kind of right-wing though process: Venom.
Venom kicks ass though.



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Married Jo wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote:  They didn't specify what types of late term abortions. It could've been cases where "if we don't abort the pregnancy now, the mother dies." Some wing nuts would rather the mother and child die.

This situation reminds me of an early 90s Spider Man comic where Venom and Spidey are teaming up against Carnage. Venom yells out "the killing must end. I'll even kill to end it." There's your spokesman for this kind of right-wing though process: Venom.
Venom kicks ass though.

Of course.

That's the series that ends up with Spidey double-crossing Venom and using Reed Richards' soundwave gun to subdue Venom/Eddie so he can be taken to the Vault.



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