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 Posted: Wed Sep 16th, 2009 03:35 am
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Jim Cornette and Brian "B.G." James were released earlier today by TNA. It is part of an apparent move to eliminate those closest to Jeff Jarrett. Previous moves have included the release of Dutch Mantel and Savio Vega.
Cornette was working as an agent at television and James was an agent on the road.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 16th, 2009 03:39 am
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James is no surprise and no loss.  To cut Cornette when TNA is desperately in need of a creative direction is asinine but par for the course with them.  As an on-air character, Cornette hasn't been seen in months.  Cornette would make a nice consultant for ROH as they struggle to rebuild.  He's already made many ROH appearances and was fantastic as talent for them.

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Should give us a nice rant from Cornette. Sad thing is TNA had wrestling people in its front office just like WCW, yet they fail to pick their brains.

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That's really too bad.  I was hoping behind hope that Corny would be the dark horse choice for booker.

Guess I won't be buying TNA PPV's anytime soon.

 

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Someone needs to utilize some of this released talent and start a wrestling promotion.  There still might be a market for it.  I am not saying have BG james wrestling, but if Cornette could find the backing for another Smokey Mountain like promotion the time is now or never (ok maybe never may have passed)



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CampCornetteNWA wrote: Should give us a nice rant from Cornette.
My first thoughts exactly.

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Someone needs to utilize some of this released talent and start a wrestling promotion.  There still might be a market for it.  I am not saying have BG james wrestling, but if Cornette could find the backing for another Smokey Mountain like promotion the time is now or never (ok maybe never may have passed)

Problem is SMW never made the bucks. So, that's why people aren't lining up to bleed money into it.

As a matter of a fact in the past 20 years in the major wrestling scene, only the WWF/E, USWA (two years at least in the 1990s) and WCW (just one year during their boom) have been in the black and made a ratings impact.

Ohio Valley also had some success, but that was with the WWF/E's machine behind it and supplying 80 percent of the talent.

It'd be great if someone could pull it off I agree, but I'm not betting my chips on it.

Somebody at TNA has to have deep pockets because it has been loosing money for a while, but I see it eventually going out of business and McMahon gaining its video library for next to nothing.

I also see the same scenario playing out for Ring of Honor.

Neither of the WWE's closest competitors are financial successes. They may be or have been critical ones, but that doesn't pay the bill.

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What's your source on TNA still losing money?

I'm not saying that you're wrong, but it's been reported a lot over the last year that they're actually making money. 

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khawk wrote: CampCornetteNWA wrote: Should give us a nice rant from Cornette.
My first thoughts exactly.

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This will sound crazy, but I think the WWE ought to seriously consider bringing back Road Dogg and Billy Gunn if/when TNA fires him.

The Outlaws were over like crazy back in the Attitude days and there is money in bringing them in for a nostalgia run since the WWE hasn't done it to date. If Shawn and Hunter don't want them to scoop their DX gimmick money, they can always just feud the two teams. After that run ended, there'd be little reason to keep them on except as fodder for stars on the rise, but it could be a hot few months of business while it lasts.

The feasibility of that is probably pretty low given all the things Billy Gunn said after he was fired and when DX was first revived and Road Dogg's drug use, but it's something to at least consider.

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Anyone really keep track of Cornette?

I would love to see in chronological order and timeframes where all he has worked. I would bet that in today's terms of a "resume" he is a total job-hopper and can't hold onto a job long. He's been everywhere.

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Here is an off the cuff list of where Jim Cornette has worked.

- Early 1980s as a photographer for the Apter Mags and probably other publications

- 1982-83 in Memphis

- Summer of 1983, GCW Superstars, the Chattanooga based group owned by Jarrett and Ole that was going to run East Tennessee and the smaller Georgia towns while the main GCW crew did the national tours. The promotion lasted about 3 months.

- Most of 1984 in Mid-South

- The end of 1984 until July of 1985 in World Class

- July of 1985 until the spring of 1989 in JCP and then in WCW under new management

- Spring and early summer of 1989 working indies. He and the Midnights made 1 or 2 shots in Knoxville for Continental.

- June of 1989 to October of 1990 in WCW

- December of 1990-January of 1991 in Memphis

- Made some shots for Global in June/July of 1991

- I think he was the color commentator for the LPWA's TV show in 1991

- Fall of 1991 to November of 1995, SMW. SMW didn't launch until the spring/summer of 1992, but there was a taping in late 1991 and Cornette was actively trying to get things off the ground.

- Made some appearances for Dennis Corraluzzo's WWA/NWA group in New Jersey in the 1990s.

- Summer of 1993 to 2005 in the employ of the WWF/WWE.

- He was in the WWF as a manager from mid 1993 until early in 1997 and then again in 1998 with the NWA angle.

- Cornette was the booker of record throughout 1996, but I'm pretty sure had input prior to then and then into 1997 until Vince Russo had pretty much edged everyone else out of the way.

- Cornette made a single ECW appearance in mid 1997 as part of the WWF vs. ECW feud that ultimately went nowhere.

- Cornette was also announcing in the WWF pretty actively from 1996 into 1998.

- From mid 1998 to 2005 he was running OVW.

- In TNA as their commissioner/general manager/whatever from 2006 to 2009.

- Has made numerous indy shots since being axed by the WWE. I think ROH brought him in at one point. Lots of nostalgia bookings with Condrey and Eaton.

I'm sure there are many more places he's been from the 1990s onwards. He'll be in wrestling in some fashion until the day he dies.

Apart from his anger issues, I think Cornette's problems stem from a longing for the territories, which are gone and are never coming back, and a certain arrogance regarding his need for control and contempt for anyone who has authority over him. That's what got him into trouble to a certain extent in OVW when he butted heads with the WWE over how to run things. To quote a friend of mine about that situation "Jim Cornette forgot whose money he was spending."

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Haha thanks Tamalie that's awesome.

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DaNkinator wrote: What's your source on TNA still losing money?

I'm not saying that you're wrong, but it's been reported a lot over the last year that they're actually making money. 

The company lost $35 million from the time Panda Energy bought it until the early part of 2008.

And yes, they've made small number profits the past year or so, but on the big picture, they're still deep in the hole and if history repeats itself, they will only get deeper in.


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