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 Posted: Sun Aug 4th, 2013 01:30 am
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HarryG
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So this is a shot of Pedro with the WWWF belt.  Trouble is, I have seen pictures of this belt with Bruno holding it, as well as seeing it around the waist (minus the WWWF plate) of guys who were World Champions for Jim Barnett's IWA in Australia in the 1960's.

My question is how did this belt make it from Australia to the WWWF, when Barnett went to Georgia after he sold his Australian promotion?

I believe that Pedro wore this belt while the McMahons were having his belt made by Nikita Mulkovitch.  The belt that Pedro won from Koloff was Bruno's property.



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G'day HarryG, 

Alex Mulko (aka Nikita Mulkovitch) was booked as Nikita Kalmikoff by Jim Barnett and Johnny Doyle on the very first tour of Australia in October 1964. 

If Alex Mulko was making title belts in 1964 then perhaps he was responsible for creating the Australian World Championship Wrestling promotion’s original IWA World Title strap. 

Mulko (as Nikita Mulkovitch) managed the Masked Russians (Pedro Godoy & Juan Sebastian) in the WWWF from approximately October 1971 to March 1972. 

Pedro Morales held the WWWF Title from 8 February 1971 to 1 December 1973. Can you please tell me at what point of his reign did Morales wear the Australian World Championship Wrestling promotion’s original IWA World Title belt (or a replica thereof)? How long into Morales' title reign did he start wearing the new WWWF Title strap (made by Mulkovitch), please? 

Australian World Championship Wrestling promoter Jim Barnett joined the NWA in 1969. However, the championship in Australia was still called the IWA World Title and recognised by Barnett up until the end of 1970. Barnett’s last year as promoter in Australia was 1973. 

King Curtis Iaukea was the last IWA World Champion. I believe that Curtis wrestled in the WWWF from January to around May 1972. King Curtis Iaukea and Baron Scicluna won the WWWF Tag Team Title from Karl Gotch and Rene Goulet on 1 February 1972. 

As the IWA World Title belt was no longer being used in Australia, perhaps Barnett sold the strap back to Mulko. Curtis could have returned the belt to Mulko in the WWWF in early 1972. 

Mulko could have then sold the IWA World Title belt to Vince McMahon Sr to use as Morales' interim WWWF belt while Alex was making the new strap. 

I appreciate that my theory is pretty far-fetched but it’s the best I can do.  :) 

It really all hinges on whether Mulko made the IWA World Title belt in 1964. It also depends on exactly when WWWF Champion Morales was wearing the IWA World Title belt.

Another theory I have is that Mulko could have made a replica of the IWA World Title belt to be used as the interim WWWF Title strap while he was crafting Morales’ new belt. 

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As the IWA World Title belt was no longer being used in Australia, perhaps Barnett sold the strap back to Mulko. Curtis could have returned the belt to Mulko in the WWWF in early 1972. Mulko could have then sold the IWA World Title belt to Vince McMahon Sr to use as Morales' interim WWWF belt while Alex was making the new strap. I appreciate that my theory is pretty far-fetched but it’s the best I can do. :)

not too far fetched, happened with a couple of other Mulko belts also,  in the 70's if you needed a belt short term you called Mulko,  looks to have been a few re-makes in the collection and he mostly made the same casts for the main design and would just alter the jewels so to speak :D



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G'day HarryG and carlton st,

So, to recap ... the WWWF Title belt that Alex Mulko made for Pedro Morales was the one that features the eagle (looking to its right wing) with its wings spread but "downturned".

It seems that Mulko's Canadian Title belt (originally the Japanese Trans World Wrestling Association [TWWA] Title belt) and his Pacific Coast Title belt (worn by Fred Blassie) have the same design of the eagle looking to its right wing.

It appears to me that Mulko made a new WWWF (later WWF) Title belt that was worn by Stan Stasiak, Bruno Sammartino, Superstar Billy Graham and Bob Backlund. This one  features the eagle with its wings spread but "upturned".

Is that right, fellas?

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I guess I am in the minority that think the Mulko belts look like shit



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G'day Road Warrior Yajuta, 

Alex Mulko's eagle design belts always struck me as being somewhat underwhelming. Those belts just don’t indicate "world champion" to me. 

As far as the early WWWF title belts go, I much prefer this one, worn by Bruno Sammartino below. 



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 Posted: Mon Oct 28th, 2013 07:30 pm
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Ed Lock wrote: G'day HarryG and carlton st,

So, to recap ... the WWWF Title belt that Alex Mulko made for Pedro Morales was the one that features the eagle (looking to its right wing) with its wings spread but "downturned".

It seems that Mulko's Canadian Title belt (originally the Japanese Trans World Wrestling Association [TWWA] Title belt) and his Pacific Coast Title belt (worn by Fred Blassie) have the same design of the eagle looking to its right wing.

It appears to me that Mulko made a new WWWF (later WWF) Title belt that was worn by Stan Stasiak, Bruno Sammartino, Superstar Billy Graham and Bob Backlund. This one  features the eagle with its wings spread but "upturned".

Is that right, fellas?

Cheers!

yes thats right , others include the N-A Title used here in Ontario, the NWA World Tag Titles circa early 80's, the Cdn TV Title here, Florida Tag Titles 70;s, Texas Title early 80's, Detroit Tag Titles , International Tag Titles here, and others with that same style, believe he also made the US shaped belts used in Mid Atlantic as well as The Sheiks US shaped one



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