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 Posted: Thu Jun 2nd, 2022 10:06 pm
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srossi wrote: MJF: “Do you guys know who the 2nd biggest minute-for-minute draw is in this entire company? It’s me! And if you don’t believe me, ask Stat Boy Tony and see what he had to say. But whatever you do, don’t ask him to reach into his pockets and pay the man who’s been busting his ass for him since Day One. No, make sure he hoardes all that money so he can give it to all the new ex-WWE guys he keeps bringing in that can’t lace my god-damned boots!”

Yeah, he definitely already re-signed.

The promo ends with MJF begging Khan to fire him and yelling at a producer for counting him down and then repeatedly dropping f bombs to get bleeped as his mic gets cut and they abruptly cut to commercial. 

Great segment, I just don’t like that they didn’t sell the Wardlow beating and went straight to shoot when the PPV was still work. 
Same as you but I also thought it got a bit too 'shoot' in a couple of places, like talking about not being wreckless, not dropping people on heads, etc. But he's so fuckin good it doesn't matter much, it's great stuff. 

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 Posted: Thu Jun 2nd, 2022 10:13 pm
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Other thoughts :

I agreed with Kriss, that Swerve segment was awful. I actually like him but that was the shits.

First match was OK but a little disappointing considering who was involved. Punk did look to have maybe hurt his leg on the rope slip, as Kriss mentioned too.

I don't know Athena and I think she has some natural charisma but that bit wasn't great.

I didn't watch the ten man tag.
The women's tag was good and Hayter is becoming my favourite of the women's wrestlers.

I don't know what a Blood and Guts match is,even after watching the show.

I liked the main event, and I must say I've actually liked a few Moxley matches since he came back. It's one of the first times I've paid attention to Garcia as a singles wrestler and I thought he looked GREAT.

Last thought, and it's not the first time I've said it, it won't be the last, and I don't like saying it because I used to love him: JR is awful.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 2nd, 2022 11:31 pm
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William Regal debuted a podcast titled "Gentleman Villain" with Matt Koon as the moderator/facilitator.  


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Aside from Regal's mic setup being in the same room with his many lizards, and their occasional hissing that might detract from a few points in time, it's a very measured forum for Regal to take his time and illustrate the points in his life and career that deserve a detailed response.   Not everyone will like it stylistically.   I heard about it listening to a clip of the Disco Inferno podcast where he dismissed it and Matt Koon as a host without hearing it first.   Episode #1 runs close to two hours but I was along for the ride, and will be checking in regularly.   



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 Posted: Fri Jun 3rd, 2022 12:39 am
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AEW has quietly “fired” MJF, removing his name from the roster page and pulling all his merch that was for sale.



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 Posted: Fri Jun 3rd, 2022 01:25 am
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Jack Evans, whose AEW contract expired in April, was announced as the last competitor in Ultimate X at Impact’s Slammiversary PPV. AEW did let them use their footage to promote him.



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Jim Cornette should get a writing credit for Friedman's promo, he mentioned so many topics such as chasing star ratings and being properly trained to not drop guys on their head that I bet Jim got a stiffy when he listened to it.



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I doubt Cornette would like a promo where a wrestler breaks kayfabe like that, specifically about dropping people on their heads.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 3rd, 2022 03:54 pm
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Jim_Irish wrote: I doubt Cornette would like a promo where a wrestler breaks kayfabe like that, specifically about dropping people on their heads.
99% of it could've easily been a kayfabe promo, except that part I suppose.  But there was no "breaking character" with anything else he said really.  If wrestling was real, that promo could've still been cut.  You could even justify that in a real wrestling match you only want to win and not paralyze someone.



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 Posted: Fri Jun 3rd, 2022 04:13 pm
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AEW has stopped following MJF on social media, which is a nice touch. They also have never uploaded the promo to any of their platforms or mentioned it in any way, selling that it was unauthorized. That’s making it more popular than ever for fans who didn’t see it live and are trying to track it down. Great way to generate buzz in this day and age is limit access when everything else is everywhere.



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 Posted: Fri Jun 3rd, 2022 06:26 pm
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srossi wrote: Jim_Irish wrote: I doubt Cornette would like a promo where a wrestler breaks kayfabe like that, specifically about dropping people on their heads.
99% of it could've easily been a kayfabe promo, except that part I suppose.  But there was no "breaking character" with anything else he said really.  If wrestling was real, that promo could've still been cut.  You could even justify that in a real wrestling match you only want to win and not paralyze someone.

You could but it's at least a little too close to the line for my liking.
It's not as bad but it's sort of like nearly every other wrestler talking about wanting to put on great matches (as opposed to winning matches).  And MFJ does use a piledriver doesn't he, which the kayfabe point of the move it to drop the guy on his head. 
Anyway, it's a small thing and it didn't really take away. He is the best young star in wrestling, he's got EVERYTHING and he's normally the highlight of the show (as he mentioned in his promo) . I watched the first aew PPV a few years ago when Bret Hart brought out the new belt and I'd never heard of MJF. He immediately impressed me hugely and continues to virtually every time I see him.

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srossi wrote: AEW has stopped following MJF on social media, which is a nice touch. They also have never uploaded the promo to any of their platforms or mentioned it in any way, selling that it was unauthorized. That’s making it more popular than ever for fans who didn’t see it live and are trying to track it down. Great way to generate buzz in this day and age is limit access when everything else is everywhere.Pretty good stuff. 

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TMZ reports that Sammy Guevara has proposed to Tay Conti in front of the Eiffel Tower.    No word if he spun his finger around his temple beforehand.

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TMZ reports that Sammy Guevara has proposed to Tay Conti in front of the Eiffel Tower.    No word if he spun his finger around his temple beforehand.

Guevara is an expert at proposals, not so good after that. 



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Meltzer is reporting that the MJF segment went way long as the mic was supposed to be cut at around 5 minutes and wasn’t until after 9 minutes. MJF clearly didn’t miss a beat and had plenty of material to work with. Meltzer says a concern though is that he was cheered, especially when bashing the ex-WWE guys, which makes the promotion look uncool and brings back memories of AEW booking themselves as WCW and MJF as the NWO, which was not the intent. Khan was expecting more of a heel reaction for him.



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Yeah, he needs to go Rob Van Dam on AEW, demanding his release to go to Raw or whatever. AEW will cheer "our" guys over the random WWE fodder - it takes a Danielson to get above that.



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