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 Posted: Sun Jun 12th, 2022 04:43 pm
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Tanahashi beat Goto in Japan to officially make the match everyone knew was already going to happen. It's Moxley vs. Tanahashi at Forbidden Door for the interim AEW World title. I've never seen a more convoluted way to get to the match everyone was expecting for a title that is only kinda sorta on the line.

In the meantime, Jay White beat Okada for the IWGP World title so I have no idea what these companies are doing.  We may wind up with White vs. Adam Page now at Forbidden Door.  2 weeks until the PPV and it seems like a mess to me even if you're a mega-hardcore fan, so I don't see how anyone else could be interested at this point.  There's basically no matches announced that haven't already changed 8 times.



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 Posted: Mon Jun 13th, 2022 02:41 pm
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Andrade has revealed that he’s forbidden from working Forbidden Door because he has a AAA contract and CMLL and NJPW have a working agreement. Konnan has blamed it on CMLL saying they don’t want him on the show and it’s not AAA’s fault. Ridiculous Lucha politics.



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 Posted: Tue Jun 14th, 2022 09:45 pm
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Thunder Rosa has been complaining about her spot on the card for many weeks now, thinking that the AEW Women’s title isn’t being given the respect it deserves. Now there’s reports that her attitude is carrying over into the ring and she’s not selling and sandbagging opponents. This seemed very apparent in her match against Marina Shafir, with the match being very awkward. This was initially blamed on Shafir’s inexperience, but it does appear that Rosa sandbags her on a simple suplex attempt that Shafir eventually got on the second try. Other women in the locker room have come to Shafir’s defense and have blamed Rosa for the poor match, as well as doing this with others in recent weeks.  Either way, Rosa has heat with the other AEW women. 



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 Posted: Tue Jun 14th, 2022 10:05 pm
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Not saying she is right to be fucking around in the ring but she does have something of a point. Jade Cargill and the TBS title does seem to be much more prominent.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 15th, 2022 12:50 am
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srossi wrote: Thunder Rosa has been complaining about her spot on the card for many weeks now, thinking that the AEW Women’s title isn’t being given the respect it deserves. Now there’s reports that her attitude is carrying over into the ring and she’s not selling and sandbagging opponents. This seemed very apparent in her match against Marina Shafir, with the match being very awkward. This was initially blamed on Shafir’s inexperience, but it does appear that Rosa sandbags her on a simple suplex attempt that Shafir eventually got on the second try. Other women in the locker room have come to Shafir’s defense and have blamed Rosa for the poor match, as well as doing this with others in recent weeks.  Either way, Rosa has heat with the other AEW women. 


I saw the supposed sandbag as a mistimed maneuver on the first attempt by Shafir, and a rushed attempt on the second.   Rosa may very well have heat with others; she isn't so experienced, either... and could use a little seasoning to be the one who can call the match and slow it down.   I don't know what other female stars are siding against her, but Rosa has a marketability right now that could be better capitalized on.    Between Rosa and Jade's title runs, I'd like to see the contenders improve their work, because the champs don't have enough credible challengers.   Britt Baker has a star quality, but could she and her crew work well with Jade and her Baddies, for example?   Mercedes Martinez, Ruby Soho, Serena Deeb, Kris Statlander and apparently Toni Storm are the next echelon of contenders, in my view, to look at.   I'll check in about 3 months to see if any of this pseudo-drama germinates into something.   

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 Posted: Thu Jun 16th, 2022 05:45 am
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Matt Hughes was my favorite UFC fighter back in the day. It was shocking to see him in whatever state he’s in now on tonight’s Dynamite. I don’t know if he has Parkinson’s or what. He was shaking, could barely walk, stumbled into the ring, and I’m not convinced he knew where he was. Thank God they didn’t have him try anything physical. That was sad.



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 Posted: Thu Jun 16th, 2022 08:22 am
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An excellent episode of Dynamite last night. So good that by the end I had forgotten all about the awful Wardlow handicap match until I read a review of the show online.



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 Posted: Thu Jun 16th, 2022 11:27 am
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Does anyone have a working link to the Thunder Rosa vs Ivelisse match from Sept. 2021? Based upon what I saw in the match with Marina Shafir, I'd say Thunder Rosa needs an old-timey in ring attitude adjustment.

I wonder if locker room policemen (or policewomen) exist in this day and age? I don't mean wrestler's court I mean someone who the booker could use to strecth someone who got out of line. Maybe Dump Matsumoto could be waiting behind the forbidden door?



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 Posted: Thu Jun 16th, 2022 11:50 am
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Kriss wrote: An excellent episode of Dynamite last night. So good that by the end I had forgotten all about the awful Wardlow handicap match until I read a review of the show online.Wardlow was sloppy with several of those powerbombs; someone with gravitas backstage needs to pull him aside for a talking to. I don't think it was intentional but people could have been injured.



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 Posted: Thu Jun 16th, 2022 05:53 pm
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So although this isn't confirmed, it seems 99% certain that the original plan was for the Hardys to win the AEW Tag titles with Christian turning on Jurassic Express and helping his old foes win.

With the Hardys out of the equation, the Young Bucks beat Jurassic Express for the titles and after the match Christian feigned concern for Jungle Boy before turning on him with the Killswitch Engage.  It remains to be seen what they do with Christian now, but they went ahead with the heel turn.

My fantasy booking idea before even watching the show was to keep t a 3-way, acknowledge Jeff's suspension (I don't think they ever mentioned him) and have Matt look for a new partner.  He would shockingly ask Christian and Christian would accept under the guise of trying to challenge the Jurassic Express to step up their game and prove that they are the best best tag team in the world by beating one half of two of the best ladder match teams ever.  It's hard to have a heel turn in a ladder match, but they could've set it up that after knocking out the Bucks, Christian does something dastardly at the end to take out the Express and help Matt climb the ladder and win, and if that isn't obvious enough then lay the Express out afterwards with a con-chair-to.  This would've given us Matt and Christian having one last run as AEW Tag champs and Jurassic Express could've eventually beaten them to get the belts back. 

Obviously I don't know where they're going with this, but as of now it's unclear what Christian and Matt do without Jeff, and Matt wasn't even an afterthought last night, so I like my idea better, but we'll see what happens.



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Post-show footage with the cameras still rolling as Christian confronts the Perry family at ringside:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPDBqnDZ8gg

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BitterOldMan wrote: Kriss wrote: An excellent episode of Dynamite last night. So good that by the end I had forgotten all about the awful Wardlow handicap match until I read a review of the show online.Wardlow was sloppy with several of those powerbombs; someone with gravitas backstage needs to pull him aside for a talking to. I don't think it was intentional but people could have been injured.To be fair if you have him in with 20 different people it's sort of asking for trouble as far as messing something up goes.

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Some very good matches again last night, in between plenty of the usual nonsense.

That's the first time I've really watched an Ospreay match and it was great. Really liked Britt v Storm. And I liked Miro v Page too.

The 20 man thing was really dumb but I doubt anyone was expecting anything any better. And, yeah, I don't dollow MMA but I know the name Matt Hughes as a former top guy. Looks brain damaged now. I'm assuming him and Woodley(?) are a big deal with this crowd so it was ok seeing them raise Wardlow's hands. But Hughes looks in awful shape.
And I'm disappointed to see Sammy and Tay  involved with Jericho. I don't see it helping them and they do have potential as the most hateable pair on the whole roster. 
The ladder match isn't my thing but it was good for what it was. Glad they did the turn and I'm really hoping this can be the thing that brings Perry up a few notches because he's sort of got it every way except talking. And now he's going to have to talk.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 18th, 2022 03:46 pm
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Is it just me or is Moxley exceptionally small since coming out of rehab? I can’t imagine he weighs 180 at this point. Tabahashi was twice as thick as him and somehow Dante Martin is about the same size.  I don’t remember Moxley ever looking this tiny in WWE.



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 Posted: Sat Jun 18th, 2022 08:09 pm
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He lost a lot of weight since rehab. I kinda think it suits him.

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