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Is that April show out there? I’m not in front of my lists right now and can’t remember.



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khawk wrote: Is that April show out there? I’m not in front of my lists right now and can’t remember.

Going back into '83, I don't have these shows memorized at all other than knowing October was the Snuka/Muraco cage match and then December obviously the Backlund title loss.  Just looking up theHistoryofWWE page, looks like the April show never aired on USA and was only broadcast on closed circuit.  That's usually the barometer if a show's definitely out there.  However, looks like some of the matches in fact aired on Prime Time later down the line (like, three years later, which is odd) and the main event aired on the 2004 HOF disc (which I have but haven't watched in ages).  So, all that said, there might be a copy of the full show floating out there, but I'm guessing, if there is, it's probably poor quality.  



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The April 83 show was never shown as far as I recall. I knew it was taped because snippits aired on sports shows that night, such as Warner Wolf...

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We are still waiting on June and November 83 which I think were both dark.

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Looks like they borrowed an old tape trader vhs for a few bouts on the 1/22/83 card...Backlund-Studd, Mac Rivera-Curt Hennig, and Stevens vs. Jules Strongbow all look like the stuff we got back in the tape trading days. Before and after those bouts, the quality is perfect.

I applaud them for putting the lower quality stuff in there along with the restored matches. I didn't think they would do that and hopefully if other issues of the like crop up in the future they'll continue with it.

Hopefully some new shows from 82 or 81 are next to drop, that would be pretty sweet.
One more note of interest: Check out Vince McMahon's colour commentary with Gorilla at the end of the Backlund-Studd match. Vince is convinced Studd has won the title or has gotten completely screwed by the ref, and vocalized it with Gorilla on the opposite end of the argument (Backlund won clean). It's a fascinating bit between the two I have not come across much if at all during Vince's commentary days.



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I watched that show just yesterday and noticed the muddy matches in the middle.
I also noticed that the March '83 matinee card is incomplete, much like the one circulating among (most) traders.

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Peacock has officially changed their PPV section to “Premium Live Events”. So we can now go back and watch such classic “Premium Live Events” such as Wrestlemania III.



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srossi wrote: Peacock has officially changed their PPV section to “Premium Live Events”. So we can now go back and watch such classic “Premium Live Events” such as Wrestlemania III.
Fuck all of that



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cookie32723 wrote: srossi wrote: Peacock has officially changed their PPV section to “Premium Live Events”. So we can now go back and watch such classic “Premium Live Events” such as Wrestlemania III.
Fuck all of that
So will WWE go back and change every time the term "Pay Per View" is used during commentary on the old videos or blur it out on any old graphics?

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Big Garea Fan wrote: cookie32723 wrote: srossi wrote: Peacock has officially changed their PPV section to “Premium Live Events”. So we can now go back and watch such classic “Premium Live Events” such as Wrestlemania III.
Fuck all of that
So will WWE go back and change every time the term "Pay Per View" is used during commentary on the old videos or blur it out on any old graphics?

I would sincerely doubt that.  That might take years and who knows how much money.  It's juts the latest "banned phrase" that can't be used going forward.



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Peacock for the first time has announced subscriber numbers and it tops 9 million, so that’s 9x more exposure for WWE although there’s no telling how many of those are actually accessing the WWE section of the platform.



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The WWE Network added six Madison Square Garden house shows from the Wrestlemania 1-era, 1985 to the streaming service. Obviously, Peacock is adding them as well here in the United States.

The events added thus far:

1/21/85:
*Moondog Rex vs. Terry Gibbs.
*Bret Hart vs. Rene Goulet in Bret Hart's MSG debut.
*Jim Neidhart vs. Tony Garea in Neidhart's MSG debut.
*Don Muraco vs. Swede Hanson.
*Blackjack Mulligan vs. Moondog Spot.
*Andre the Giant vs. Ken Patera.
*Big John Studd vs. George Wells.
*Roddy Piper & Bob Orton vs. Jimmy Snuka & The Junkyard Dog.
*The Spoiler vs. Rick McGraw.
*WWF Intercontinental Champion Greg Valentine vs. Tito Santana.

4/22/85:
*WWF Junior Heavyweight Champion the Cobra vs. Barry O.
*Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Matt Borne.
*King Kong Bundy vs. Swede Hanson.
*The British Bulldog vs. Rene Goulet & Johnny Rodz.
*Ricky Steamboat vs. Moondog Spot.
*WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. Don Muraco.
*WWF Tag Team Champion the Iron Sheik vs. Mike Rotundo .
*WWF Tag Team Champion Nikolai Volkoff vs. Barry Windham.
*Tito Santana & The Junkyard Dog vs. WWF Intercontinental Champion Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake.

5/20/85:
*Rocky Johnson vs. Rene Goulet in Johnson's final match in MSG.
*Jim Neidhart vs. Ivan Putski.
*Pedro Morales vs. Terry Gibbs.
*WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. Don Muraco
*Bret Hart vs. Quick Draw Rick McGraw.
*Ken Patera vs. Tony Atlas.
*WWF Tag Team Champions Nikolai Volkoff & the Iron Sheik vs. The U.S. Express, Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo.
*The Missing Link vs. SD Jones
*Jesse Ventura vs. Tony Garea.
Bruno & David Sammartino vs. Brutus Beefcake & Johnny Valiant.

6/21/85:
*Lanny Poffo vs. Terry Gibbs in Poffo's MSG debut.
*Tony Atlas vs. Matt Borne.
*The Missing Link vs. Jose Luis Rivera.
*Jim Brunzell vs. Moondog Spot in Brunzell's MSG debut.
*Randy Savage vs. Rick McGraw in Savage's MSG debut.
*Adrian Adonis & Big John Studd & Bobby Heenan vs. George Steele & WWF Tag Team Champions The U.S. Express, Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo.
*Desiree Peterson vs. Judy Martin.
*King Kong Bundy vs. Tony Garea.
*WWF Intercontinental Champion Greg Valentine vs. Ricky Steamboat
*B. Brian Blair vs. Barry O.
*WWF Champion Hulk Hogan vs. Don Muraco in a steel cage match.

7/13/85:
*Ivan Putski vs. Moondog Spot.
*The Missing Link vs. Rick McGraw.
*Pedro Morales vs. Rene Goulet.
*Adrian Adonis vs. Jose Luis Rivera.
*The Junkyard Dog vs. Bob Orton.
*Terry Funk vs. Lanny Poffo.
*Paul Orndorff vs. Roddy Piper.
*The Iron Sheik vs. Swede Hanson.
*George Steele vs. Nikolai Volkoff.
*Brutus Beefcake vs. George Wells.
*The British Bulldogs vs. The Hart Foundation for the first time in MSG.

8/10/85:
*Paul Roma vs. Charlie Fulton.
*Lanny Poffo vs. Iron Mike Sharpe.
*The Missing Link vs. Tony Garea.
*Pedro Morales vs Barry O.
Uncle Elmer vs. Big John Studd.
*Tony Atlas vs. Les Thornton.
Andre the Giant & Paul Orndorff vs. Roddy Piper & Bob Orton.
Randy Savage vs. Jose Luis Rivera.
WWF Tag Team Champions The U.S. Express, Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo vs. Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake.

Notes:

-The February 18, 1985 MSG event included the MTV broadcast "The War To Settle The Score" - there is a question as to whether WWE or Viacom, MTV's parent company, would hold ownership of that part of the event.

-The March 17, 1985 MSG event was already on the WWE Network. Wrestlemania was held March 31, 1985, and that is obviously already on the WWE Network.



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srossi wrote: Peacock for the first time has announced subscriber numbers and it tops 9 million, so that’s 9x more exposure for WWE although there’s no telling how many of those are actually accessing the WWE section of the platform.Is it 9 million PAID subscribers?  I'm asking because I am unpaid, and watch free shit every night.  Usually around bedtime after my wife falls asleep I put on Storage Wars because with no sound on it puts me to sleep in about 15 mins.



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WWE Network (before this Peacock merger) already uploaded the two MSG specials - MSG Feb 1985 (The War to Settle the Score) and MSG July 1984 (The Brawl to End It All) and I can't remember how long they were up but they were taken down really quickly. Like in a matter of days or weeks if I remember.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Peacock for the first time has announced subscriber numbers and it tops 9 million, so that’s 9x more exposure for WWE although there’s no telling how many of those are actually accessing the WWE section of the platform.Is it 9 million PAID subscribers?  I'm asking because I am unpaid, and watch free shit every night.  Usually around bedtime after my wife falls asleep I put on Storage Wars because with no sound on it puts me to sleep in about 15 mins.

I can't remember the details now because I wrote that 2 months ago, but WWE Network was usually 1 million with many not paid because of all their free trial deals, so they still get 9x the exposure any way you slice it.  I'd be more curious to see how this move has effected the numbers for specific PPVs and shows.  9x more exposure doesn't mean that 9x more people are actually watching a B-level PPV.  I wouldn't be shocked if those numbers actually went down as you now have less WWE-specific fans with Peacock, whereas everyone who had WWE Network theoretically wanted to watch WWE.  I think something like WM will likely do better with the wider net, but other than that almost no one who has Peacock probably cares about WWE's little sub-section.



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