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Looks like he's going to be a heel commentator going by this trainwreck of an interview. Kudos to Gene Okerlund though.
https://youtu.be/ESYy0vZWgIk

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I believe that was a dark style tryout, and he fucked it up so bad they parted company before he ever made an official debut.

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He didn’t seem high or drunk, I think he was just trying way too hard to be funny and get himself over and he 100% missed the way WWF interviews are supposed to go and what his role was supposed to be. That was rough.



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Jimmy has said things didn't go well with them. They wanted him to do some try out matches and he was offended by that because he had been wrestling non stop since the 70's and it went from there.

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Super cringe to watch. Yeah, the 1992 WWF fanbase wasn't quite ready for heel commentators accusing Okerlund of dating underage girls. As Rossi said, it doesn't appear he's stoned, but it may have been a combination of nerves and just not going out there with any sort of plan. A bad plan sometimes is better than no plan at all. Those jokes about Oklerund's wife and underage GF were too bad to be planned.



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I never thought much of him as a wrestler and then that commentator gig which I watched just a few years ago was awful.

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An obvious lack of planning. He went out there to cut a promo in the shouty style of every wrestler interview from 1984 to 1995. Problem is, he didn't have a match to hype so it completely fell apart. He's supposed to be being interviewed, but he's alternatively shouting straight into the camera, or turning his back to the camera and trying to get some heat with the crowd, who really didn't care, and might not have even known who he was. Was he trying to take credit for Warrior leaving WWF at the end there because Warrior was scared of him? If he was coming in as a main event heel, that makes sense, but he's auditioning to sit in the announce booth.

The main take away from all this is that Mean Gene is the greatest interviewer in the history of the business and will never be equalled.

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I agree about Kriss's compliments about Mean Gene. The only thing I really have to add is that Jimmy once said he was brought in to play the Doink The Clown character, but they gave it Mat Bourne instead. I don't know if that's true or just another bullshit wrestling story?

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With their scandal season in full bloom around this time, I am surprised they'd consider bringing anyone with ties to teaming with Terry Garvin in their past. The layer of investigative reporting wasn't what it could be today, but it would be a distraction as reporters went down the rabbit hole of supposition.

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I didn't think it went that poorly, or that Garvin blew it. Like Kriss said, it just wasn't structured properly for Garvin to play to his strengths. He and Michael Hayes had done a very good job as heel color commentators while working with Lance Russell in WCW a couple years prior to this tryout, so it's not like he hadn't already proven he could fill that role.



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KGB wrote: I didn't think it went that poorly, or that Garvin blew it. Like Kriss said, it just wasn't structured properly for Garvin to play to his strengths. He and Michael Hayes had done a very good job as heel color commentators while working with Lance Russell in WCW a couple years prior to this tryout, so it's not like he hadn't already proven he could fill that role.
Regardless of all that, as a general rule of thumb, don't make underage sex jokes on TV in the middle of a sex scandal (or probably ever).  And face the hard cam, as you can see Okerlund nudging him several times because he knows that's a huge thing for Vince.



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KGB wrote: I didn't think it went that poorly, or that Garvin blew it. Like Kriss said, it just wasn't structured properly for Garvin to play to his strengths. He and Michael Hayes had done a very good job as heel color commentators while working with Lance Russell in WCW a couple years prior to this tryout, so it's not like he hadn't already proven he could fill that role.The Lance Russell, Freebirds WCW Pro commentary team in 1990 was awesome. So of course WCW immediately broke them up when they got over.

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Early heel Jimmy Garvin in Florida in early 1983 alongside Gordon Solie was fun stuff. Jimmy was insightful and well-spoken as he discussed the match but was learning how to get his heel persona across in the process. I remember Solie sort of dismissing one of his points as "not necessarily the opinion of many viewers" and a short time later, Garvin used the same line back on Solie! The "harrumph" factor was strong.

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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: I didn't think it went that poorly, or that Garvin blew it. Like Kriss said, it just wasn't structured properly for Garvin to play to his strengths. He and Michael Hayes had done a very good job as heel color commentators while working with Lance Russell in WCW a couple years prior to this tryout, so it's not like he hadn't already proven he could fill that role.
Regardless of all that, as a general rule of thumb, don't make underage sex jokes on TV in the middle of a sex scandal (or probably ever).  And face the hard cam, as you can see Okerlund nudging him several times because he knows that's a huge thing for Vince.
I think it's this.  Anybody that is producing backstage that sees the underage sex jokes on camera is thinking "I'm not going to say I like this, it will mean my job".  So that ended the experiment.  I would not dismiss the whole Doink the Clown thing either - they probably wanted him to dye his hair, shave his beard, and don the makeup and he said no. 



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I don't think of Jimmy Garvin as old there, but this effectively ended his career. He came back back for one WCW match in 1994, losing to Johnny B. Badd at Superbrawl. I can't remember the details or if that was always meant to be a one-off, but it went nowhere. He was a surprise replacement for Michael Hayes and you assumed The Freebirds would get another run, but nothing. Hayes himself must've been on the way out because 2 months later they were in Global together, so maybe it was just bad timing for Garvin. They won the Global Tag titles and had a 3-month nostalgia run bringing back Gordy too, and that was it. I see 5 indy dates for Garvin between 1995-2000, but he was already out of the business. Few leave for a "real job" and stay away forever.



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