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 Posted: Tue Mar 15th, 2022 12:42 am
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Not sure exactly what time he was pronounced dead, but Raw did open with his picture and "In Memory Of..." card.



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srossi wrote: Not sure exactly what time he was pronounced dead, but Raw did open with his picture and "In Memory Of..." card.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/03/14/wwe-legend-scott-hall-dead-63/

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Boz1515 wrote: Kevin Owens opened Raw with "Hey Yo."
And the fans didn't react at all.  Sad.  They had no idea.  I really wonder who is going to WWE shows these days.



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Does anyone know what the age range is of the fans that go today. The height of the NWO was 96 to 99 . How many at the shows remember it or were around when it happened? Scott Hall may just be some old wrestling legend to them that they never saw live.

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srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Kevin Owens opened Raw with "Hey Yo."
And the fans didn't react at all.  Sad.  They had no idea.  I really wonder who is going to WWE shows these days.

Owens also told Rollins "Tough times don't last, but tough guys do."



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Spatulapup wrote: Does anyone know what the age range is of the fans that go today. The height of the NWO was 96 to 99 . How many at the shows remember it or were around when it happened? Scott Hall may just be some old wrestling legend to them that they never saw live.
The average age of a WWE fan is over 50, but that's not the audience that necessarily goes to live shows.



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GregOliver wrote: Hope my piece was worth the wait:

https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2022/03/14/scott-hall-dead-at-63/

Oddly, never dealt with Scott Hall. Even when he was at the Cauliflower Alley Club, he, Waltman, Michaels and Nash avoided everyone.



He did come into the CAC Monday night wrestling show and moved to the open row in front of me and Bobby Simmons, just to get away from all the gladhanders and watch some of the show.   He apologized to us for blocking our view, which he wasn't.    

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srossi wrote: srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Kevin Owens opened Raw with "Hey Yo."
And the fans didn't react at all.  Sad.  They had no idea.  I really wonder who is going to WWE shows these days.

Owens also told Rollins "Tough times don't last, but tough guys do."

Yeah that was cool.

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WWE got up the video tribute in the 3rd hour but it wasn't very good, not for someone of his stature. I'd say it's because they didn't have much time, but we all know that they just don't do good videos anymore.



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The AWA is "various organizations" now.

WWE statement:

WWE is saddened to learn that two-time WWE Hall of Famer Scott Hall has passed away.

A hugely influential Superstar, Hall began his career in 1984, performing with various organizations across the country before joining World Championship Wrestling in 1991 as The Diamond Studd. In 1992, Hall signed with WWE and introduced fans all over the world to the character of Razor Ramon, becoming a four-time Intercontinental Champion and one of the most enduring personas of WWE’s “New Generation.” He participated in memorable rivalries against Kevin Nash, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and countless others, with his two Ladder Matches against Michaels at WrestleMania X and SummerSlam 1995 both considered all-time classics by fans and industry insiders alike. In 1996, Hall re-joined World Championship Wrestling and joined Kevin Nash and Hulk Hogan as the founding members of the nWo (New World Order), revolutionizing the sports-entertainment industry and ushering in the “Monday Night Wars.”

After retiring from the ring, Hall capped off a one-of-a-kind career by being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame as Razor Ramon in 2014 and again as a member of the nWo in 2020.

WWE extends its condolences to Hall’s family, friends and fans.



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srossi wrote: The AWA is "various organizations" now.





Well, you have to count his Coyote role in American Starship with Dan Spivey in both JCP and Central States.  Plus he had time in the Florida office after leaving the AWA in 1987 under his own name.  

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srossi wrote: WWE got up the video tribute in the 3rd hour but it wasn't very good, not for someone of his stature. I'd say it's because they didn't have much time, but we all know that they just don't do good videos anymore.When Dusty died, they did close to 6 minutes of video I believe.  Razor doesn’t deserve the Dusty treatment, but let’s be honest - his impact on the business was *almost* as big as Dusty’s if you look at it from the “It Changed The Business” lens.  He was the first huge name to book himself a fully guaranteed contract, he convinced Nash, who really didn’t like the idea of trusting WCW again, to jump with him.  It completely changed the way the boys got paid.  Zack Ryder doesn’t pull in $500k per year from WWE to sit on his ass forgotten about if not for Scott Hall (and yes, it took two to tango so Bischoff paying Hall was part of this too).  Guys like Steve Austin, who had pretty much washed out of WCW, would have never made tens of millions if not for Scott Hall.   As ridiculous as it is to type this, TNA/Impact may have never been formed if not for Scott Hall and Kevin Nash because let’s face it, WCW was failing badly prior to the Outsiders showing up and making them look cool.  Do you think Jerry Jarrett tries to build another promotion if not for WCW showing real success in fighting WWE?  I don’t.  RIP to the Bad Guy.



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One Fan Gang wrote: srossi wrote: The AWA is "various organizations" now.





Well, you have to count his Coyote role in American Starship with Dan Spivey in both JCP and Central States.  Plus he had time in the Florida office after leaving the AWA in 1987 under his own name. 

I'm not saying he wasn't really in "various organizations", but to fold his AWA run into that is ridiculous and insulting.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: WWE got up the video tribute in the 3rd hour but it wasn't very good, not for someone of his stature. I'd say it's because they didn't have much time, but we all know that they just don't do good videos anymore.When Dusty died, they did close to 6 minutes of video I believe.  Razor doesn’t deserve the Dusty treatment, but let’s be honest - his impact on the business was *almost* as big as Dusty’s if you look at it from the “It Changed The Business” lens.  He was the first huge name to book himself a fully guaranteed contract, he convinced Nash, who really didn’t like the idea of trusting WCW again, to jump with him.  It completely changed the way the boys got paid.  Zack Ryder doesn’t pull in $500k per year from WWE to sit on his ass forgotten about if not for Scott Hall (and yes, it took two to tango so Bischoff paying Hall was part of this too).  Guys like Steve Austin, who had pretty much washed out of WCW, would have never made tens of millions if not for Scott Hall.   As ridiculous as it is to type this, TNA/Impact may have never been formed if not for Scott Hall and Kevin Nash because let’s face it, WCW was failing badly prior to the Outsiders showing up and making them look cool.  Do you think Jerry Jarrett tries to build another promotion if not for WCW showing real success in fighting WWE?  I don’t.  RIP to the Bad Guy.
There is no underestimating the impact of the NWO on wrestling history and everything that came after, and that starts with Hall.  Comparing him to Dusty is apples and oranges, territory days vs. the cable wars, trying to draw a $100,000 gate vs. guaranteed money in the tens of millions.  You obviously needed people like Dusty first to get the business where it went, but by the time the NWO came along they set it off to another level that not even Vince himself could've reached without them existing.  It allows everything we see on TV today to still exist at the exposure it does, not because the product is one tenth as hot but because fans and network executives and money mark promoters keep hoping it will be again if they can just come up with that "NWO" idea. 



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