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One question: what the hell was the story with Don Owen's wig? It was towards the end when they showed a brief clip of him announcing Portland was finished on TV. Did he were it regularly? It was ridiculous.

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bpickering wrote: WCCW: Wrestling's Lone Star Legacy |Tales From TheTerritories S1E8

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For some reason they rewrote history with Kerry/Flair, saying it was a WWF-style cage match where the first man to leave the ring was the winner. 100% false.



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BuddyPSHayes wrote: bpickering wrote: WCCW: Wrestling's Lone Star Legacy |Tales From TheTerritories S1E8

https://youtu.be/WJXcQeyoN3U

For some reason they rewrote history with Kerry/Flair, saying it was a WWF-style cage match where the first man to leave the ring was the winner. 100% false.

Also, David Manning is crediting himself for the angle, although all I've heard befors this was Gary Hart came up with it and left shortly afterward upon being stiffed for his payoff from the show.

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One Fan Gang wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: bpickering wrote: WCCW: Wrestling's Lone Star Legacy |Tales From TheTerritories S1E8

https://youtu.be/WJXcQeyoN3U

For some reason they rewrote history with Kerry/Flair, saying it was a WWF-style cage match where the first man to leave the ring was the winner. 100% false.

Also, David Manning is crediting himself for the angle, although all I've heard befors this was Gary Hart came up with it and left shortly afterward upon being stiffed for his payoff from the show.

Manning was head booker for only a brief time around '86-'87.



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Just watched the World Class one. Chris Adams super kicked a guy's eye out? The cops filled up David Manning's gun with bullets?

Hmmm....my bullshit meter is going off more for this episode.

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Jim_Irish wrote: Just watched the World Class one. Chris Adams super kicked a guy's eye out? The cops filled up David Manning's gun with bullets?

Hmmm....my bullshit meter is going off more for this episode.

Manning has told that story many times before, including at the Ric Flair Roast. It’s usually about the same but with more details thrown in, and that part was new to me. Obviously he’s embellished it a lot over the decades, but the basic premise appears to be true. 



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Yeah, it's not that far fetched of a premise. Just hard to know how much is embellished. It's the same with most of them, I just found some of this one more ridiculous.

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BuddyPSHayes wrote: bpickering wrote: WCCW: Wrestling's Lone Star Legacy |Tales From TheTerritories S1E8

https://youtu.be/WJXcQeyoN3U

For some reason they rewrote history with Kerry/Flair, saying it was a WWF-style cage match where the first man to leave the ring was the winner. 100% false.
That's a bizarre re-write in the sense it's the most easily checkable.

Doesn't make me want to waste my time watching it now. That's just absurd even by pro wres bullshit roundtable standards.



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khawk wrote: BuddyPSHayes wrote: bpickering wrote: WCCW: Wrestling's Lone Star Legacy |Tales From TheTerritories S1E8

https://youtu.be/WJXcQeyoN3U

For some reason they rewrote history with Kerry/Flair, saying it was a WWF-style cage match where the first man to leave the ring was the winner. 100% false.
That's a bizarre re-write in the sense it's the most easily checkable.

Doesn't make me want to waste my time watching it now. That's just absurd even by pro wres bullshit roundtable standards.

They just legitimately made a mistake. It should’ve been taken out in editing. The clips they aired clearly show Hayes trying to get Kerry to pin Flair, which is where their conflict started. These are old guys who have seen thousands of matches, they just fucked up. Chavo Guerrero, Jr. served as the moderator for this one, and someone who was more of a wrestling historian in that role could’ve made sure that error didn’t happen too. 



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That makes it sound a little more reasonable. I thought it might have been a voiceover of some sort.



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No, there's genuine slips in memory at times throughout it.

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I'd like to see a Liar's Club Roundtable Battle Royal with 20 or so pundits like they use here.  Fact-checkers look on and get to point out bullshit, eliminating each one until the most honest remains.  At most it would last about 7 minutes, long enough for everyone to say something at least once...and would usually spell their elimination immediately.

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A lot of it is bullshit but a lot is also the fact that these guys are mostly in their late 60s and 70s now talking about stuff from 40 years ago that quite frankly they don’t care about nearly as much as us hardcore fans do. It was all just another day at the office for them, especially in the territories.



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srossi wrote: A lot of it is bullshit but a lot is also the fact that these guys are mostly in their late 60s and 70s now talking about stuff from 40 years ago that quite frankly they don’t care about nearly as much as us hardcore fans do. It was all just another day at the office for them, especially in the territories.

I think I was hoping for a little more from this series than just taking old timey carneys on their word as to what happened. They did have at least one wrestling historian working on the show, but they might have been relegated to only finding newspaper clippings to back up the stories, rather than fact check. But this is TV, where entertainment trumps the truth every time.

Sometimes it's hard to work out the difference between an outright lie, an embellishment and just someone filling in the gaps of something they don't really remember.



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