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 Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 08:59 pm
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Mike Mussina is at 262 wins now. He's 12-6 this season. Say he picks up 6 more wins to put him at 268 at year end. He turns 40 in December. It would probably take 3 more years for him to get there at 10/11 wins a year. If he could pitch on a decent team fr that time  I'd say he has a shot at it. Maybe at worse 280-290 range. Does that get him into the HOF if he makes it?

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He is in same boat,right now, as Jack Morris.



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Except that Jack Morris distingushed himself on teams that won the World Series, and in the World Series itself.

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Right now, Jack Morris > Mike Mussina.

If Mussina get to 300, he's a shoo in.  Even though a lot of offensive thresholds are no longer magic numbers (eg. 500 HR) for automatic inclusion into the HoF, 300 wins is still a magic number.



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300 wins will continue to be a magic number because it is expected that we will see less 300 game winners in coming years due to 5-man rotations and more specialized bullpens; meanwhile we have seen people blow away 500 lately and that trend will continue IMO.

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To answer the question, if he does get to 300 he does get in.  He's certainly better than Don Sutton was and that will always be my "least deserving pitcher to make the HOF barometer".



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But he's not getting to 300.  He's about to turn 40 and he has 262 wins after already being written off last year as done.  This is all gravy.  If he finishes this season with 20 he's only at 270.  Is he really going to win 20 again?  He would need 15 win seasons for 2 more years or 10 win seasons for 3 more years.  He's going to be winning 10 games at 43 when no one expected him to get that many this year?



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If Jamie Moyer can get keep on getting 10+ wins a year since he turned 40 for the last 6 years, I'm sure Mussina, who's a better pitcher, can manage it for 3.

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Barring injury, Mussina will get it.  He been tremendously durable since 1994, so I don't foresee injury being a problem.  If this season has shown anything, it's that Moose still has something left in the tank; he could still be a solid #3 starter on almost any team in the majors.  Also, since the 2005 season, he's averaged 14 wins for every 30 starts.  I don't see why he couldn't win 14 or 15 next year, and 14 or 15 the year after that.  Assuming he gets five more wins this year, he'll be on target to get his 300 late in the 2010 season, when he'll only be 41 years old.   

Worst case scenario, I see him pulling a Randy Johnson, and hanging around as a shell of his former self just to get the 300.



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