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Posted: Fri Dec 9th, 2011 10:45 pm

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btw, forgot about this, but another thing that I love about Hagar is that he really just wants to jam and have fun, he never had a problem with Cherone and has had him come up and sing with him several times since that. It's kind of funny, that Hagar/Roth tour they did in 2002, Sammy tried almost EVERY NIGHT to get Roth out there to sing with him, especially the nights that Mikey was playing with him, he even offered at one point I know to just stand back and play guitar and let Roth and Mikey do their thing, and Roth never would do it, always came up with some excuse. That same tour when they were near where Cherone lived, Sammy got Gary up there and sang VH songs with him..

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Posted: Sat Dec 10th, 2011 02:38 pm

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Gary Cherone might have worked in Van Halen if not for the fact that many fans were mad about both the manner of Sammy Hagar's exit and that they were teased with the return of David Lee Roth only for it to either fall through or turn out to be never really been in the cards. Eddie Van Halen had long been a big babyface as a personality to Van Halen fans, and music fans in general. These twin debacles made him out to be the worst kind of heel and his rep still hasn't recovered after 15 years. No one was buying Cherone after that mess.This. Cherone was actually a GREAT replacement, don't blame him, blame Eddie and Alex..Gary was doomed from the start. That said, the tour they did with him, nobody went, but damn, they were on FIRE, Eddie was playing great and Gary sang his ass off, he not only pulled off the old classics but nailed the Hagar stuff as well and that's not easy to do..

Agree on all points. Cherone did fantastic in a horrible situation.

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Posted: Sat Dec 10th, 2011 02:42 pm

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I thought about naming Cherone, but the guy can sing. I think it was more of a timing thing, more than anything else. I always thought cherone would have been the ideal replacement for Freddie Mercury in Queen,

Also, the little Filipino dude who sings for Journey now is a monster.

Of course Cherone can sing, but you asked for worst replacement singer, and he was. Good in his own right, horrible replacement choice for VH.

From a die hard Journey fan: Pineda can sing, but hes a tribute band singer, nothing more. If they werent trotting out Perry clone, after Perry clone, like they have w/3 singers now, &continuing to call it Journey? I wouldnt feel that way. Guys good, but how did he get the job? Imitating/sounding like someone else. Just like Augeri &JSS did.

Augeri's voice nearly gave out, trying to imitate Perry.

It's unfair to criticize Augeri and Soto. The 2 Augeri albums (plus an EP) were very, very solid, and Arrival had some of their best work since the peak. It was better than the previous 2 Perry albums, but it got literally zero promotion. Augeri should have been given a year off to rest but the plowed on - the money's in the tour. Poor bastard's lucky he can sing now.

Soto is fantastic but Cain and Schon are hooked on their "legacy sound" and Soto's voice is too deep.

Pineda does his best. But he's not as good live or on record as Augeri, and often times sounds just brutal on some of the more difficult Perry stuff. The drummer, Deen Castronovo, is actually a better Journey vocalist than Arnel Pineda.

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Posted: Sat Dec 10th, 2011 02:43 pm

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I thought about naming Cherone, but the guy can sing. I think it was more of a timing thing, more than anything else. I always thought cherone would have been the ideal replacement for Freddie Mercury in Queen,

This x10. I'm not exactly sure why this didnt happen.

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Posted: Sat Dec 10th, 2011 05:36 pm

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BigJ wrote:
stingmark wrote:
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I thought about naming Cherone, but the guy can sing. I think it was more of a timing thing, more than anything else. I always thought cherone would have been the ideal replacement for Freddie Mercury in Queen,

Also, the little Filipino dude who sings for Journey now is a monster.

Of course Cherone can sing, but you asked for worst replacement singer, and he was. Good in his own right, horrible replacement choice for VH.

From a die hard Journey fan: Pineda can sing, but hes a tribute band singer, nothing more. If they werent trotting out Perry clone, after Perry clone, like they have w/3 singers now, &continuing to call it Journey? I wouldnt feel that way. Guys good, but how did he get the job? Imitating/sounding like someone else. Just like Augeri &JSS did.

Augeri's voice nearly gave out, trying to imitate Perry.

It's unfair to criticize Augeri and Soto. The 2 Augeri albums (plus an EP) were very, very solid, and Arrival had some of their best work since the peak. It was better than the previous 2 Perry albums, but it got literally zero promotion. Augeri should have been given a year off to rest but the plowed on - the money's in the tour. Poor bastard's lucky he can sing now.

Soto is fantastic but Cain and Schon are hooked on their "legacy sound" and Soto's voice is too deep.

Pineda does his best. But he's not as good live or on record as Augeri, and often times sounds just brutal on some of the more difficult Perry stuff. The drummer, Deen Castronovo, is actually a better Journey
vocalist than Arnel Pineda.

I think Augeri &Soto are great singers, just not for Journey. Both got the gigs, bc they sounded alot like Perry. If they had a different sound, then they wouldnt make any money as a band. The legacy thing is whats paying their bills right now.

Their new disc, sounds like a cheap, tribute band, trying to sound like Journey. I couldnt even get past the 4th or 5th song, it was so bad.

Pineda better have iron lungs, dont know what the band would do, if he went down, ala Augeri. Truthfully, think Pinedas ok....but all this " omg he sounds exactly like Perry" bs....is just that. Yeah he does sound similar, but alot of times, he struggles to recreate that sound, making him &the band come off looking cheap

Last edited on Sat Dec 10th, 2011 05:40 pm by stingmark

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