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 Posted: Sat Apr 7th, 2018 09:43 pm
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So, my workplace is once again at it with some questionable behavior that affected at least myself and one other coworker that I know of (probably more)..
Back in early Feb, I had just come back to work after 3 months off from back surgery. I was looking around at other openings to see if there was something to shift to that was less physically demanding. One of the Nursing Supervisor's quit, leaving the spot open. So I looked at the requirements, all of which were met and exceeded easily and applied. Application was approved by HR about 2 days later. Didn't hear anything for a while, so checked back to see the spot was still open. Most times no interviews happen for a month or so as they wait for candidates. After 6 weeks, still nothing heard, looked and spot is still posted. 

Fast Forward to last Wed. I'm working with a woman who works PRN at the hospital, maybe one or two shifts a month. She works FT at a small community hospital. I hadn't seen her in a few months so was just asking how her job was going. She said she'd just given her notice, because she'd accepted an offer to become the new Nursing Supervisor at our hospital.  So of course, this caught me off guard, but I didn't let her know that I'd applied. Now later in the day, there was another nurse who I work with who had also applied, and I asked her if she'd ever heard back about interviewing. She told me no. Same skills set as me, been an RN about 10 yrs at this hospital 

So sensing something was was obviously up I talked to our floor rep, an RN who meets with the Chief Nursing Officer monthly to update one how things are going, problems, concerns etc. I discuss this with the rep, since it's a clear violation of internal system policy (not just our entity) which requires all approved internal candidates to be interviewed for open positions. 

She meets with the CNO this past Wed, and asks why this position has been filled without interviewing candidates. The CNO skirts the issue and won't give a direct answer. The next day I get a call from our Director (think of the CNO's underling) asking if I want to meet to discuss/interview for the position. So, figuring that either I"m being played and they're trying to in effect backtrack an interview I start recording our conversation (since Missouri is a one party recording state) I make it clear from the start that I know the position has been filled, and so why would I need to be interviewed for a job that doesn't exist anymore. Lots of circular answers follow, along with me asking why none of us on the unit were interviewed when we were approved by HR and qualified. So, some weak attempt at a lie, involving a supposed mixup that encompassed the fact they were also interviewing for a manager position on another unit and wires got crossed or some other ridiculous BS. 

Now I have an email from HR responding and confirming my submission for the specific job and then another approving my qualification. I also have a link on our internal website doing the same, with the date of submission and the position and requirements listed. There's no mixup.  If there was, it woundn't encompasses my coworker as well who applied. 

Obviously they had the hiree pre-selected, but for some reason chose to ignore required policy and interview candidates. They could have easily held some sham interview, I wouldn't have known any better, and in the end, nothing would have been in the open. But someone got lazy, and screwed this up. 

So now they're in some attempt at backtracking this, and I"m not sure what the next step is. My coworker is livid, I'm more amused at their incompetence. Any suggestions at this point. My coworker wants to take this to our CEO and is also going to talk to an attorney. I'm just trying to gather info for the moment and see what is plausible.

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 Posted: Sat Apr 7th, 2018 10:19 pm
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I'm nowhere near as competent as Srossi on this kind of thing but half-way through reading I arrived at your conclusion at the end. Position was posted as a 'requirement' but who they were hiring was predetermined. And yes someone got lazy by not interviewing anyone.


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Violated their own company's policy, that's about all.

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 Posted: Sat Apr 7th, 2018 10:34 pm
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I figured as much. She's much more worked up over it than I am. I'm more surprised they were so incompetent in this process. This doesn't bode well for our dealings with HR though, since now people know this shit isn't on the level (although we suspected this was going on when administration did an overhaul a few years ago and brought in all outsiders)

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 Posted: Sun Apr 8th, 2018 03:53 am
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Didn’t you ask me about an almost identical situation a year or two ago? I’m not sure what can be done. It’s an internal policy that isn’t being followed from pretty high up, so going through internal channels is useless. I don’t see any realistic way you can sue unless you complain so much and raise such a stink that you get yourself fired and go after them for unlawful termination, and you likely don’t want to do that. But internal policy isn’t law so you can’t do much. It’s really bizarre that they wouldn’t just do courtesy interviews and then hire who they want anyway. That’s what most companies do.



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 Posted: Sun Apr 8th, 2018 04:04 am
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Not exactly the same, but similar issue. Two years ago I was one of 2 final candidates for a unit manager job out of 13 applicants. They then decided to blow me off for the latter stage interviews since they got an external candidate whom I'm guessing they wanted in the first place. Seemed bizarre to me they'd do this again so overtly, but ethics seem to be arbitrary when it comes to the hiring process I'm finding out.

Last edited on Sun Apr 8th, 2018 04:04 am by Principal_Raditch

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