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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 09:11 pm
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This is simple. Men in the USA should put their money where their dicks are and be required to register their DNA in a federal data base. When their sperm collides with an egg and creates “life at conception”, they are on the hook for their equal share of all financial, moral, and socio-cultural obligations from the moment the pregnancy is discovered until the “person” is 21. Or, keep your dick in your pants.



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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 09:18 pm
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gwlee7 wrote: This is simple. Men USA should put their money where their dicks are and be required to register their DNA in a federal data base. When their sperm collides with an egg and creates “life at conception”, they are on the hook for their equal share of all financial, moral, and socio-cultural obligations from the moment the pregnancy is discovered until the “person” is 21. Or, keep your dick in your pants.

That's a discussion we could have (blood tests instead of DNA).  Close to 99% of abortions are non-medically necessary procedures.  In the main, a woman's choice happens when she decides whether or not to let her knickers hit the floor.  Sorry toots, you wanted all the thrill with none of the responsibility.  Well, the party's over.  



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As an aside, it appears that Thomas is champing at the bit to rein in the regulatory state, as well as to revisit other decisions in which the Court conjured a Constitutional right out of thin air. Don't be surprised to see Obergefell get a challenge.



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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 09:49 pm
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KGB wrote: gwlee7 wrote: This is simple. Men USA should put their money where their dicks are and be required to register their DNA in a federal data base. When their sperm collides with an egg and creates “life at conception”, they are on the hook for their equal share of all financial, moral, and socio-cultural obligations from the moment the pregnancy is discovered until the “person” is 21. Or, keep your dick in your pants. That's a discussion we could have (blood tests instead of DNA).  Close to 99% of abortions are non-medically necessary procedures.  In the main, a woman's choice happens when she decides whether or not to let her knickers hit the floor.  Sorry toots, you wanted all the thrill with none of the responsibility.  Well, the party's over.   The man’s sperm was just as necessary so his REQUIREMENT since his choice when his knickers hit the floor should be equal responsibility from the moment of conception.  The very phrase “sorry toots” makes me think you believe men have little to no obligation in this.   If you want fetuses to become babies, put your money where your dick is.  



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 Posted: Fri Jun 24th, 2022 09:55 pm
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KGB wrote: As an aside, it appears that Thomas is champing at the bit to rein in the regulatory state, as well as to revisit other decisions in which the Court conjured a Constitutional right out of thin air. Don't be surprised to see Obergefell get a challenge.
Wonder why he isn’t applying this same vigor to revisiting Loving v. Virginia? Oh because it would impact him personally and in his mind, who he marries isn’t any of our business. 



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I'm glad Roe v Wade was overturned.

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gwlee7 wrote: KGB wrote: As an aside, it appears that Thomas is champing at the bit to rein in the regulatory state, as well as to revisit other decisions in which the Court conjured a Constitutional right out of thin air. Don't be surprised to see Obergefell get a challenge.
Wonder why he isn’t applying this same vigor to revisiting Loving v. Virginia? Oh because it would impact him personally and in his mind, who he marries isn’t any of our business. 

.Provided it's a man and a woman, sure.  That's natural and was the universally accepted method of matrimony for thousands and thousands of years.  



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 Posted: Sat Jun 25th, 2022 12:37 am
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gwlee7 wrote: KGB wrote: gwlee7 wrote: This is simple. Men USA should put their money where their dicks are and be required to register their DNA in a federal data base. When their sperm collides with an egg and creates “life at conception”, they are on the hook for their equal share of all financial, moral, and socio-cultural obligations from the moment the pregnancy is discovered until the “person” is 21. Or, keep your dick in your pants. That's a discussion we could have (blood tests instead of DNA).  Close to 99% of abortions are non-medically necessary procedures.  In the main, a woman's choice happens when she decides whether or not to let her knickers hit the floor.  Sorry toots, you wanted all the thrill with none of the responsibility.  Well, the party's over.   The man’s sperm was just as necessary so his REQUIREMENT since his choice when his knickers hit the floor should be equal responsibility from the moment of conception.  The very phrase “sorry toots” makes me think you believe men have little to no obligation in this.   If you want fetuses to become babies, put your money where your dick is.  

No, I agree 100% with men having the same obligation as women.  As for my dick, I'm happily married and this will never be an issue since I've never cheated on my wife and never will.  I practice what I preach, pal.    



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Lol, pal.



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Do people not know how the child support system works? This "now men have to take responsibility" stuff is already the law. It's proven in court you're the father. You're ordered to pay support every month based on your income. You don't you go to jail.

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dr_papufnik wrote: Do people not know how the child support system works? This "now men have to take responsibility" stuff is already the law. It's proven in court you're the father. You're ordered to pay support every month based on your income. You don't you go to jail.
There are plenty of work-arounds for child support deadbeats. Can't get blood from a stone, either.



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dr_papufnik wrote: Do people not know how the child support system works? This "now men have to take responsibility" stuff is already the law. It's proven in court you're the father. You're ordered to pay support every month based on your income. You don't you go to jail.
You almost never go to jail. You're here in MO just like me and you have to get to at least 10k in arrears before the notion of jail is even broached. Then if you literally make a $10 payment to the arrears you're let off the hook. It's a simple game to play. I work with enough single moms whose ex's play the game and they see a fraction of what is court ordered. One of them now has a son who is @ 23. The father still has over 40k in back ordered support. He goes to court every couple month up in Buchanan County for violating his probation for nonpayment. They take the bond amount and apply it to the arrears....Then he starts all over again. The cycles just continues. 
One of critical response Rn's is from Lawson. She has two sons, 22 and 18. The boys father took of and moved back in with his mother over near Hannibal. Had a min wage job and lived in her house, basically with her supporthing him. The courts could only attach against his "wages" so he was paying $300/month for the two boys. All this shit is easily accessible in casenet

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The whole situation is completely rigged in the man’s favor. We are gonna fuck and fuck and fuck and fuck and take zero responsibility. You wanna fuck, get a vasectomy.



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Principal_Raditch wrote: dr_papufnik wrote: Do people not know how the child support system works? This "now men have to take responsibility" stuff is already the law. It's proven in court you're the father. You're ordered to pay support every month based on your income. You don't you go to jail.
You almost never go to jail. You're here in MO just like me and you have to get to at least 10k in arrears before the notion of jail is even broached. Then if you literally make a $10 payment to the arrears you're let off the hook. It's a simple game to play. I work with enough single moms whose ex's play the game and they see a fraction of what is court ordered. One of them now has a son who is @ 23. The father still has over 40k in back ordered support. He goes to court every couple month up in Buchanan County for violating his probation for nonpayment. They take the bond amount and apply it to the arrears....Then he starts all over again. The cycles just continues. 
One of critical response Rn's is from Lawson. She has two sons, 22 and 18. The boys father took of and moved back in with his mother over near Hannibal. Had a min wage job and lived in her house, basically with her supporthing him. The courts could only attach against his "wages" so he was paying $300/month for the two boys. All this shit is easily accessible in casenetThe father of my stepsons moved in with his new girlfriend, put everything he owned into her name, and refused to get a job (except under the table work). Court dismissed a his back owing child support from when he had a good job as a heavy equipment operator and ordered he pay $1 a month until he had gainful employment, at which time a percentage would be assigned based on his employed wage.This was AFTER she took him to court for his back owing support. She gave up at that point, given she had put so much into getting him to court in the first place. Didn't blame her.
He never saw them after he split with their mom, either. Guy had seven kids by four women and fucked each of the mothers of his kids over for support (and even seeing the kids. Trust me they were better off not seeing him...)

T'was a long time ago, yes, but the work-arounds are still there if you're deadbeat enough and don't want anything to do with the kids you made.
It's a system designed to do what most other systems the government puts out there does, fuck over anyone attempting to honestly traverse it. The ones that get bent over by it would likely have paid anyways.



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gwlee7 wrote: The whole situation is completely rigged in the man’s favor. We are gonna fuck and fuck and fuck and fuck and take zero responsibility. You wanna fuck, get a vasectomy.

On the flip side, divorce/family courts are completely rigged in the woman's favor.  



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