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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2022 04:47 pm
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srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: So cops stayed outside for 40 minutes with parents begging to let them rescue their kids while shots went off. Good look there LEO
I just saw it.  There are no depths to which cops won't sink and no situation they can't make worse.  They're as responsible as the shooter for what happened.  They were shivering with fear until the SWAT Team arrived to handle it, and took out their frustration on the parents, physically assaulting one.  The cowardice and incompetence would be stunning if it wasn't so routine.  It's impossible not to think that since most of the LEO on the scene were border patrol agents that they just didn't want to risk their lives over the Mexican kids they routinely shoot at anyway, but the truth is that they're so cowardly I doubt they would even risk their lives for their own kids, who they regularly beat.

https://reason.com/2022/05/26/witnesses-video-suggest-stunning-inaction-from-uvalde-cops-during-school-shooting/?fbclid=IwAR26JbEaK-MBEHTQK-DPCX_i_ch_QxOtHaJVbwn_NKkieDLnkbWQkudw4cY
I was just coming here to post this. I'm practically shaking as I type this. The SWAT team didn't do shit either. It was an off duty border patrol pig who killed the shooter. Now this border patrol pig is on some type of super fantastic stunning and brave "elite" team. But he did it by himself.

The Uvalde SWAT team stood around with their thumbs up their ass for 30 minutes because they couldn't breach a door to get into the school. A teacher had to come and open it for them. In that 30 minutes Ramos was able to kill many 6 year olds unobstructed. But at least SWAT and the Uvalde PD got to go home to their families at the end of their shift. 

But wait, there's more. Uvalde police found Ramos outside the school because he had driven his car into a ditch. They "questioned" him, saw he had body armor on, then let him walk away. 
We as taxpayers are breathlessly giving police departments billions of dollars so they could play dress up commando. Cowardice like this here is unparalleled. Some pig in the video that Rossi posted had his taser out ready to tase the first parent that got out of line. Yet, the bootlicking will remain strong in this country. Actually, I predict it will get stronger. Why are North Americans such pussies and bootlickers?



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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: "We're going to strip you of your innate right to defend yourself as you see fit, but don't worry, there will always be an armed constabulary to protect you!"
If you don't believe in shooting bad cops when they need it, you don't believe in the 2nd Amendment.  This is why no Republican actually believes in the 2nd Amendment, nor does their gun lobby wing the NRA, which now is just an extension of that party.  And Democrats have to have split personalities to speak out against police shootings and then turn around 5 seconds later and say that only cops should have guns.  Idiotic.


Political alignment has fractured so much in recent years that the Democrat/Republican labels are becoming increasingly pointless.  When you wrote "Republicans", you were describing normie-cons, still watching their sportsball, still believing in "muh Constitution", still thinking that if they vote hard enough in the mid-terms this will all work itself out.  

As for Democrats, does there still exist anyone who would have fit in with the Democrat party of the mid 20th century?  



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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: So cops stayed outside for 40 minutes with parents begging to let them rescue their kids while shots went off. Good look there LEO
I just saw it.  There are no depths to which cops won't sink and no situation they can't make worse.  They're as responsible as the shooter for what happened.  They were shivering with fear until the SWAT Team arrived to handle it, and took out their frustration on the parents, physically assaulting one.  The cowardice and incompetence would be stunning if it wasn't so routine.  It's impossible not to think that since most of the LEO on the scene were border patrol agents that they just didn't want to risk their lives over the Mexican kids they routinely shoot at anyway, but the truth is that they're so cowardly I doubt they would even risk their lives for their own kids, who they regularly beat.

https://reason.com/2022/05/26/witnesses-video-suggest-stunning-inaction-from-uvalde-cops-during-school-shooting/?fbclid=IwAR26JbEaK-MBEHTQK-DPCX_i_ch_QxOtHaJVbwn_NKkieDLnkbWQkudw4cY
I was just coming here to post this. I'm practically shaking as I type this. The SWAT team didn't do shit either. It was an off duty border patrol pig who killed the shooter. Now this border patrol pig is on some type of super fantastic stunning and brave "elite" team. But he did it by himself.

The Uvalde SWAT team stood around with their thumbs up their ass for 30 minutes because they couldn't breach a door to get into the school. A teacher had to come and open it for them. In that 30 minutes Ramos was able to kill many 6 year olds unobstructed. But at least SWAT and the Uvalde PD got to go home to their families at the end of their shift. 

But wait, there's more. Uvalde police found Ramos outside the school because he had driven his car into a ditch. They "questioned" him, saw he had body armor on, then let him walk away. 
We as taxpayers are breathlessly giving police departments billions of dollars so they could play dress up commando. Cowardice like this here is unparalleled. Some pig in the video that Rossi posted had his taser out ready to tase the first parent that got out of line. Yet, the bootlicking will remain strong in this country. Actually, I predict it will get stronger. Why are North Americans such pussies and bootlickers?

The entire justification for the billions we spend on SWAT Teams, which were never supposed to be part of regular, long-term law enforcement when they first started, just evaporated.  But no one will notice.  Further, no one will put it together that in a real-life dangerous situation, the SWAT Team was too scared to act swiftly or even to open a door.  But when they're looking for 3 pot plants and a loose Percocet, they bust the door down and go in guns blazing "fearing for their lives".  We KNOW that when they're really fearing for their lives, they cower and don't shoot at all.  The entire stack of cards just fell, and no one will ever talk about it again.



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srossi wrote: The entire stack of cards just fell, and no one will ever talk about it again.
Sounds like an interesting theory. Splain Lucy.



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The GOP and NRA are just waiting for things to die down and the pressure to go away. Abbott says its just a mental health issue. He was more angry and active about getting masks out of schools than assault rifles.

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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: The entire stack of cards just fell, and no one will ever talk about it again.
Sounds like an interesting theory. Splain Lucy.

Everything I just said.  All the justifications unjustified for anyone paying attention.



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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: "We're going to strip you of your innate right to defend yourself as you see fit, but don't worry, there will always be an armed constabulary to protect you!"
If you don't believe in shooting bad cops when they need it, you don't believe in the 2nd Amendment.  This is why no Republican actually believes in the 2nd Amendment, nor does their gun lobby wing the NRA, which now is just an extension of that party.  And Democrats have to have split personalities to speak out against police shootings and then turn around 5 seconds later and say that only cops should have guns.  Idiotic.


Political alignment has fractured so much in recent years that the Democrat/Republican labels are becoming increasingly pointless.  When you wrote "Republicans", you were describing normie-cons, still watching their sportsball, still believing in "muh Constitution", still thinking that if they vote hard enough in the mid-terms this will all work itself out.  

As for Democrats, does there still exist anyone who would have fit in with the Democrat party of the mid 20th century?  


The cathedral uniparty hunter gun owners are your typical NRA member. The new non hunter gun owners spend their money donating directly to pro-gun politicians, State & local gun rights groups and to organizations like USCCA that provide a tangible service to its members.  

The NRA isn't the one getting state and local gun laws repealed it is local politicians & state level gun organizations that are listening to their voters and members even against the wishes of Law enforcement. This new set of gun owners aren't huge fans of the police themselves and especially hate any gun laws. 

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The husband of one of the school teachers that were killed and has died of a heart attack. They leave behind 4 children.

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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: The entire stack of cards just fell, and no one will ever talk about it again.
Sounds like an interesting theory. Splain Lucy.

Everything I just said.  All the justifications unjustified for anyone paying attention.
Oh I got all that and agree with it 110%. The part that I wondered about was the "no one will ever talk about it again". Do you mean that pigs will no longer try to justify their billion dollar budgets to "keep us safe"? Or the bootlickers will never again go forward and wax poetic about what heroes all LEO's are?

I'm not trolling here because I am honestly interested in your opinion on what will happen going forward. I don't think this debacle will tarnish police reputations by one little, tiny bit. In this country there are many, many more bootlickers out there then there are people who see things as they really are.



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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: The entire stack of cards just fell, and no one will ever talk about it again.
Sounds like an interesting theory. Splain Lucy.

Everything I just said.  All the justifications unjustified for anyone paying attention.
Oh I got all that and agree with it 110%. The part that I wondered about was the "no one will ever talk about it again". Do you mean that pigs will no longer try to justify their billion dollar budgets to "keep us safe"? Or the bootlickers will never again go forward and wax poetic about what heroes all LEO's are?

I meant no one will ever talk about all the failings I just mentioned, and how the justifications don't hold water.  Really it's not even a conscious decision anymore.  What I said will never even dawn on them.  They wouldn't even understand any of it, like I was speaking Swahili.



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At this point, I think if the kids and grandkids of the politicians who could initiate some sort of change were gunned down (god forbid) in a school setting or something similar, just like this, with the same horrific response from those they want in place to protect the kids, they would still find a way to resist the changes that need to be made to help prevent these weekly slaughters.
…and that’s why America is completely fucked at the end of the day. These people would sacrifice their own, literally, before admitting things need to change.

I think even if it was their own flesh and blood getting killed, they wouldn’t institute even discussions of changes that could help prevent it. The mindset/$$$ is that ingrained now.

It’s too late to fix it.

America is truly fucked and I feel terrible for everyone here that has kids that have to go to school with these incidents so frequent it can’t be put out of mind, ever really.



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Remember at the beginning of Covid, the TX Lieutenant Governor straight said old folks should die for the economy so, it’s not a stretch by any means. Dan Patrick is an asshole btw. N


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I can sum up the whole thing in 3 words. The shootings, the cowardly "good guys with guns", the GOP, Dems, thoughts and prayers, finger pointing - all of it...

"Ain't that America."



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A fourth grader who survived the shooting at Robb Elementary in Uvalde described how it ended. "The cop said: 'Yell if you need help!' And one of the persons in my class said 'help.' The guy overheard and he came and shot her. Then the cops barged in

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