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 Posted: Fri Jul 15th, 2022 01:03 am
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Look at the BLM riots and the agent provocateurs in clear recordings breaking windows in Minnesota and instigating the masses and nothing was ever done and nobody was ever identified.

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Papa Voo wrote: Look at the BLM riots and the agent provocateurs in clear recordings breaking windows in Minnesota and instigating the masses and nothing was ever done and nobody was ever identified.


I love how that got characterized as 'mostly peaceful protests'



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 Posted: Fri Jul 15th, 2022 11:32 am
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beejmi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Look at the BLM riots and the agent provocateurs in clear recordings breaking windows in Minnesota and instigating the masses and nothing was ever done and nobody was ever identified.


I love how that got characterized as 'mostly peaceful protests'



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For what it's worth, Tucker did a segment last night on Ray Epps.  If you don't know who he is, or if you've only read the dismissive, sympathetic pieces in the state-run media, it's a good primer on why his name won't go away.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R67tpqSjeE



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And thats just it for me.

If the Democrat party/Biden etc didn't want me to vote for Trump in 2024 then get in there and get this country running right.

But no. Trump Trump Trump. Revenge revenge revenge.

I'm not saying I'd vote for Trump in 2024 but I am saying it won't be for a continuation of this nonsense.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 16th, 2022 03:58 pm
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beejmi wrote: And thats just it for me.

If the Democrat party/Biden etc didn't want me to vote for Trump in 2024 then get in there and get this country running right.

But no. Trump Trump Trump. Revenge revenge revenge.

I'm not saying I'd vote for Trump in 2024 but I am saying it won't be for a continuation of this nonsense.

Most think that Trump is just about the only person who Biden can beat. Trump is so divisive and such a disaster that few who don’t already have positive feelings for him would switch. If Trump’s who can handle sitting this one out and letting DeSantis or anyone else take the GOP forward, then many who voted for Biden would probably switch just because of inflation and supply chain issues, the stuff that actually affects real lower and middle class lives on a daily basis. 



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Trump vs Kamala

Who you got?

It could come down to that.

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beejmi wrote: Trump vs Kamala

Who you got?

It could come down to that.
Jesus Christ, that's like asking if you want your leg broken in five places or your arm broken in 5 places.

If Trump runs and doesn't win then I hope everyone is prepared for another round of "the fix was in, rigged election" to be on parade.
Better yet, what if he doesn't get the Republican nomination? Does he accuse the conventioneers of rigging it?

Until everyone down there gets past all that, you're looking at an endless cycle of "election was rigged" for decades, and I don't see a candidate for either party being able to win a resounding victory to break the cycle, like Reagan - Mondale would have should this have been going on back then. Party loayalty is too entrenched for that to happen now.



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khawk wrote: beejmi wrote: Trump vs Kamala

Who you got?

It could come down to that.
Jesus Christ, that's like asking if you want your leg broken in five places or your arm broken in 5 places.

If Trump runs and doesn't win then I hope everyone is prepared for another round of "the fix was in, rigged election" to be on parade.
Better yet, what if he doesn't get the Republican nomination? Does he accuse the conventioneers of rigging it?


Do you really need to ask?  Has Trump ever graciously accepted anything?  We need to let the adults start governing again and get away from the soap opera shit. It’s exhausting but more importantly than that, it does real damage to our country. And oh, by the way, inflation and the supply side issues started under Trump’s disastrous policies and were exacerbated by Biden continuing to do most of the same shit. Writing blank checks during the pandemic and using Bernie Sanders‘ playbook when it comes to tariffs and protectionism is why we’re here now, and Trump did it. And everyone said it was going to happen, and it did. But that’s hard for either side to focus on when you have the daily tweet of the day and made-up election fraud issues and riots at the Capitol. Fortunately he didn’t have many actual policies, but the ones he did have were a fucking disaster. Of course Biden agreed with most of them. But Trump is an “outsider”.



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When has a “billionaire” ever been an outsider? That’s the part that kills me. Trump is for the people. LMFAO. It’s like those episodes on the old Dallas TV show when J.R. was calling himself the Workingman’s Friend. Total bullshit.



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It costs so much money to campaign for any office in the US now that unless we get true campaign finance reform, all we will ever get is plutocracy or oligarchy.



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srossi wrote: khawk wrote: beejmi wrote: Trump vs Kamala

Who you got?

It could come down to that.
Jesus Christ, that's like asking if you want your leg broken in five places or your arm broken in 5 places.

If Trump runs and doesn't win then I hope everyone is prepared for another round of "the fix was in, rigged election" to be on parade.
Better yet, what if he doesn't get the Republican nomination? Does he accuse the conventioneers of rigging it?


Do you really need to ask?  Has Trump ever graciously accepted anything?  We need to let the adults start governing again and get away from the soap opera shit. It’s exhausting but more importantly than that, it does real damage to our country. And oh, by the way, inflation and the supply side issues started under Trump’s disastrous policies and were exacerbated by Biden continuing to do most of the same shit. Writing blank checks during the pandemic and using Bernie Sanders‘ playbook when it comes to tariffs and protectionism is why we’re here now, and Trump did it. And everyone said it was going to happen, and it did. But that’s hard for either side to focus on when you have the daily tweet of the day and made-up election fraud issues and riots at the Capitol. Fortunately he didn’t have many actual policies, but the ones he did have were a fucking disaster. Of course Biden agreed with most of them. But Trump is an “outsider”.



I thought Biden & Harris were a return to normalcy because they were the adults in the room. 

I don't see a way that this country ever gives up the political drama. There are too many clicks for a video that has AOC clapping after every word and too many news articles to write about Trump's latest scandal. 

The fraud narrative isn't going away either for those that want to yell about it especially with the Wisconsin SC recently ruling that the voting drop boxes are unconstitutional. 

To answer Beej's question though I'd Take Trump over Harris but Desantis over Trump. Desantis is better at navigating the culture war, has military experience and does a better job of handling the press. 
 

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gwlee7 wrote: When has a “billionaire” ever been an outsider? That’s the part that kills me. Trump is for the people. LMFAO. It’s like those episodes on the old Dallas TV show when J.R. was calling himself the Workingman’s Friend. Total bullshit.


I always thought outsider was the wrong term, he was more of an insurgent candidate. He said stuff the uniparty didn't want him to say and did things they didn't want him to do. The leak that the Pentagon lied to him about how many troops were still in Syria so he couldn't take them all out was the perfect example in my mind. 

Trump actually being for the people isn't as important as the inspiration he gave people to stand up for themselves and to search out community. I've never been to a Trump rally and never will, but I know a few who have, and they say it's like a sporting event; people tailgating, cheering, booing and having a great time. People make connections and stay in touch with one another.  

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Franchise wrote: srossi wrote: khawk wrote: beejmi wrote: Trump vs Kamala

Who you got?

It could come down to that.
Jesus Christ, that's like asking if you want your leg broken in five places or your arm broken in 5 places.

If Trump runs and doesn't win then I hope everyone is prepared for another round of "the fix was in, rigged election" to be on parade.
Better yet, what if he doesn't get the Republican nomination? Does he accuse the conventioneers of rigging it?


Do you really need to ask?  Has Trump ever graciously accepted anything?  We need to let the adults start governing again and get away from the soap opera shit. It’s exhausting but more importantly than that, it does real damage to our country. And oh, by the way, inflation and the supply side issues started under Trump’s disastrous policies and were exacerbated by Biden continuing to do most of the same shit. Writing blank checks during the pandemic and using Bernie Sanders‘ playbook when it comes to tariffs and protectionism is why we’re here now, and Trump did it. And everyone said it was going to happen, and it did. But that’s hard for either side to focus on when you have the daily tweet of the day and made-up election fraud issues and riots at the Capitol. Fortunately he didn’t have many actual policies, but the ones he did have were a fucking disaster. Of course Biden agreed with most of them. But Trump is an “outsider”.



I thought Biden & Harris were a return to normalcy because they were the adults in the room. 

 

Biden is such an adult he’s back in diapers and unable to eat solid foods again. Maybe we need less of an adult then. 



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There is too much money to be made in campaign advertising right now for there to be a return to normalcy. Over $2 billion was spent on national elections in 2020. To me, Fox News and CNN are simply opponents in a scripted match no different than anything from ‘rasslin.



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