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 Posted: Tue Dec 20th, 2011 03:40 am
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BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: I see you buy into the "doing jobs Americans won't do" malarky. Just curious, who did these jobs before we had this epidemic of illegals? I'll save you the time. Legal immigrants, teenagers, and low IQ Americans typiclly did these menial jobs.

Blacks and Irish mostly, and they were legal immigrants by choice or force and there were a shitload of them.  Other legal immigrants had already moved up.  Obviously now we don't have that large influx of legal immigrants willing to do anything and we never will again.  And children of course.  Not teenagers, more like 10-year olds.  You're not going back far enough when it comes to child labor because it kinda makes Americans look bad, but a lack of child labor laws certainly helped a lot.  The lowest classes with the least rights will always do those jobs in any era.  Today those are illegal immigrants.  And it's hardly one of the top 100 problems we face. 

Dude, you're way off. In my old neighborhood, it wasn't unusual to see white teenagers mow lawns, rake leafs, shovel snow, and wash dishes. Of course, there was always the low IQ adults with no worthy skills that worked with them. I'm not ashamed to say that I washed dishes at my cousins restaurant, pumped gas, and bagged groceries.

Wow, you're older than I figured.  Your old neighborhood is from the late 1800s - early 1900's?  I'm not sure why you're talking about 1970s or '80 suburban middle-class America when I'm telling you about the history of the immigration issue in this country.  You're making huge broad generalizations and then when I dispute them you suddenly focus on a very specific time or neighborhood.  You can't have it both ways. 

Anyway, back to books...

Last edited on Tue Dec 20th, 2011 03:41 am by srossi

This thread was great before AA ruined it.