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 Posted: Thu Mar 13th, 2008 03:13 pm
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I am thinking this is becoming an antiquated custom. Let me explain.

Company comes in to the employee and says "We have to let you go" - bang - the employee is done.

Employee gives notice and company response is "Ok you are done now" (screwing the employee out of two weeks of money)

Companies offer positions "Starts Monday - with today being Thursday ~ what don't you want the position?"

So in 2008, why bother?

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 Posted: Thu Mar 13th, 2008 08:56 pm
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I haven't had that experience at all.  In high-level professional positions it's mandatory and depending on the level 3-4 weeks is sometimes even the norm.  You can't just walk out on your employer, it'll burn a bridge and word will get around.  And employers would never tell an employee to just leave, they want them to finish up and possibly help transition their replacement (of course that doesn't apply if someone's being fired, presumably behind the scenes everything is already set by the time the firing is done).  Employers understand this and never expect someone to start ASAP.  They know they need to give notice.  Hell, half the time it takes a week just for someone to negotiate terms and accept a position after all the counter-offers are weighed.  If you're in the job market, you not only have your current employer to consider but you have other interviews lined up too.  If you get an offer, you need time to inform EVERYONE, including employers you just interviewed with yesterday who might not make a decision for a week.  You need to tell them to hurry up because you're about to be off the market.  Nothing happens quickly and any employer who expects spor of the moment decisions won't last very long.  It's unprofessional and unrealistic.  Even if I'm salivating at an offer, I'm not accepting for several days because to do so isn't the norm and wouldn't be expected anyway, I'm holding out and leveraging my position.  And if someone ever expected me to leave without giving notice, I'd look at him like he had 3 heads.  That's just ridiculous.  In 2008, it's more relevant than ever because everything is so much more complicated.  Just e-mailing files and documenting processes and letting everyone know your passwords to everything might take 3 weeks. 

I had a client last year who was some J.R. Ewing hotshot wannabe.  Made a few million in Texas in real estate and moved to NY to do it again.  This guy had us recruiting for a Financial Analyst and wanted him out of a firm like a Goldman Sachs.  He was offering $200,000 plus bonus but a small company like that doesn't have much in the way of insurance and the bonus might be great or might be nothing.  So it's not an easy fill.  I found my man though and the client loved him.  Big problem, he offered him the job on the spot and asked him if he could start on Monday.  The guy gave me a call and told me to find more professional clients in the future.  Someone like that would need a weeks just to consult with his family, financial advisors, accountant, etc. and that's before he even gave his 2 weeks notice.  The client became a laughingstock and word got around those circles and he never could find a top-ter Financial Analyst again.  I think he wound up recruiting some kid out of Wharton who just wanted to get his feet wet, and he overpaid for him.  You don't pull that shit with Goldman.  You do yahoo moves like that in real business, and people laugh at you.

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 Posted: Thu Mar 13th, 2008 09:03 pm
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In sales, it's by far the norm that when you give your notice, they show you the door.



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 Posted: Thu Mar 13th, 2008 09:07 pm
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Well of course, because you have a list of leads that you can steal.



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 Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 01:39 pm
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Yeah, but if you were going to quit, you would have stolen your leads prior to giving notice anyways.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 05:17 pm
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Principal_Raditch wrote: Yeah, but if you were going to quit, you would have stolen your leads prior to giving notice anyways.

Exactly.



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 Posted: Sat Mar 15th, 2008 02:40 am
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In my business (finance) we've only asked people to leave immediately if their new employer creates a conflict of interest, and to be honest the majority of those people we don't have issues with it because they're good people. I've encountered situations where people have offered me their two week's notice and I've turned it down because we really don't need them.

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