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 Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 11:56 pm
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Met him a few years ago and his persona from back in 1980 made me ready to be disappointed in how he would be towards a fan.  He was so far removed from the interviews and cool - and that says it all.  He played his part extremely well.


In his book Larry talks about how he worked everyone into thinking he was a complete asshole, that even wrestlers and promoters he never met thought he was his character and were shocked when they actually met him.



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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 12:57 am
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I think his character was convincing because we all know people who are sort of assholish in that whiny, conspiratorial, everyone's-against-me sort of way.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 05:00 pm
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beejmi wrote: I have seen the Bruno stuff, and I'm sure it's a case of "not in the moment", but I find it completely overrated, now.

You are absolutely right about that. the Bruno vs Larry matches are "C" matches. The promos and storyline and TV match leading up to the feud A+++++



You did have to be there.  Looking at Bruno on tape now, I see what I never saw back then.  He really was predictable and his matches were not always that good.  But having grown up around him (and this has been said ad nauseum-but it's true), Bruino made you believe that he was the best.

LarryZ's turn was also predictable in the build-up (even then) but because of the emotion invested in both guys you prayed that it wouldn't happen-and were furious when it did.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 07:04 pm
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I will state this.  After attending the steel cage match in Pittsburgh between Sammartino and Zbyszko, I can say without a doubt that I have never been to a more electrified crowd event in my life, before or after.  The vibe could be felt when they began putting together the cage, and it just kept growing.  When Bruno entered the cage, it was max level noise.  I am not lying saying that my ears still had a hollow static in them when departing the arena. 

The crowd was way loud for the introductions, but every punch, kick, stomp or body being thrown into the cage, there were just explosions of noise.  I had ringside seats, and never, I mean never, did I see the chaos outside the ring like I did that night.  The folding chairs were scattered all over the place.  most were out of order and some were collapsed and just laying there.  Everybody in that building was on their feet from the beginning of the introductions to the end of the match.  The security guards had lost control of any type of organized order as soon as the match began.   It was mayhem at it's best.

The only noise that I compare it to was coming out of a heavy metal concert. That roar just stayed in your ears. 

I saw the turning coming during the original shows, but I think the chair shots were the surprise. 

I have stated this many times on wrestling boards.  Most professional wrestling fans are not going to a wrestling match to see a good shoot match or technical expertise of wrestling moves.  Some may, but alot of fans don't.  Professional wrestling is a lot like soap operas.  You see the situation being pieced together from show to show.  You know what is coming, but you want to see it all transpires to that point. 

I have watched Thez matches and other greats, and frankly, I saw them as being boring.  For me, a match is a lot more than what goes on in the squared circle.  I want the hype, the promo interviews, the unique angle...that is what kept me cming back years ago.  As it has been said so many times over, I wanted to see the storyline transpires. 

You have Flair doing practically using the same methodology in his matches for the last 20 or more years.  You want to talk about being unimpressive. 

 

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Okay, in regards to Zbyszko, I thought he was decent as a wrestler.  Once again, his interviews and his stall techniques are what made him a good heel.  I did not like him as a face at all going back to the early 1970's, because without his cockiness, he was a bore in regards to his character and personality. He was an above-average pro wrestler, but he was really nothing great.

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Papa,

That was pretty much my response to the complaint about his stalling.  That was a tactic to draw heat.  The guy is a definite HOF for both his wrestling and mike skils.  His fued with Bruno is still in my top 5 of all time.   He had other great feuds as well but that one was so over the top great that it shadows some of his oher ones.

 

 

 

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 Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 01:20 pm
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I didnt see Larry untill the mid 80's in the AWA. The only match I saw of him anywhere else was the cage match again Bruno.

He was a good worker but I just hated the stall techniques thats why if he was on I couldnt watch.

His matches with Regal were good. 

Wasnt there talk about Larry joining the Horsemen before Flair was fired and went to WWF.

I remember he subbed for Double A in the war games match.



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