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 Posted: Fri Jan 24th, 2014 06:40 pm
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For all the shit talk Cornette does about WWE, WCW, ECW, TNA, etc. you'd think he'd have been able to get SMW over & farther along than he did especially since listening to him preach about how they don't know what they're doing

If TNA is treated as a non-profit ATM machine then that's far more than SMW ever was. And I'm sure it hurts a little inside for Cornette to know that an ignorant money mark woman got a wrestling company off the ground & further along than Jim could ever dream of with his 'ideas'

Did SMW ever make it out of his mom's basement ? Because THAT is why its easy to see thru Cornette. He can be funny with some success to back it up with but he is full of shit. He writes checks bigger than he is capable of cashing

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Superstar wrote: martini wrote: Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: LOLZ. so funny for a guy that hasn't been relevant in 17 years.
IDK... Considering he was in charge of OVW when it churned out many of the top stars of today, I believe Cornette was rather relevant pre-Santino slap.

I think you are giving too much credit to Corny on this - it would have been impossible for Cornette to fail with Cena, Batista, Lesnar, Benjamin, Orton, the Bashams, Dinsmore, Morgan.  Hell - I can argue that even more of his guys should have been big stars!

Really?  Ya think so?

Because all but 4 of those guys aren't even in the business anymore, and it wasn't until Triple H or Stephanie took notice of the others that they got a break.

I realize that's counter to the argument that Cornette had anything to do with their success, but it's also about who ya know.  Of those, only Lesnar was destined to really break out. 

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Superstar wrote: martini wrote: Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: LOLZ. so funny for a guy that hasn't been relevant in 17 years.
IDK... Considering he was in charge of OVW when it churned out many of the top stars of today, I believe Cornette was rather relevant pre-Santino slap.

I think you are giving too much credit to Corny on this - it would have been impossible for Cornette to fail with Cena, Batista, Lesnar, Benjamin, Orton, the Bashams, Dinsmore, Morgan.  Hell - I can argue that even more of his guys should have been big stars! 


Really.. The Bashams were can't miss? I always thought they were lucky to hit,but that's just me.



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DaNkinator wrote: Superstar wrote: martini wrote: Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: LOLZ. so funny for a guy that hasn't been relevant in 17 years.
IDK... Considering he was in charge of OVW when it churned out many of the top stars of today, I believe Cornette was rather relevant pre-Santino slap.

I think you are giving too much credit to Corny on this - it would have been impossible for Cornette to fail with Cena, Batista, Lesnar, Benjamin, Orton, the Bashams, Dinsmore, Morgan.  Hell - I can argue that even more of his guys should have been big stars!

Really?  Ya think so?

Because all but 4 of those guys aren't even in the business anymore, and it wasn't until Triple H or Stephanie took notice of the others that they got a break.

I realize that's counter to the argument that Cornette had anything to do with their success, but it's also about who ya know.  Of those, only Lesnar was destined to really break out. 

That's my fucking point...If Cornette were so damn good, ALL of those guys would have made it big - along with Romeo, Antonio, Rico, etc.  The OVW crew from that time frame was far better than the Power Pro Wrestling crew from 97-00 that preceded them, and if you look at that "team photo", there were more long time pros than any of the OVW days.  And that's not Danny Davis' fault.



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Superstar wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Superstar wrote: martini wrote: Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: LOLZ. so funny for a guy that hasn't been relevant in 17 years.
IDK... Considering he was in charge of OVW when it churned out many of the top stars of today, I believe Cornette was rather relevant pre-Santino slap.

I think you are giving too much credit to Corny on this - it would have been impossible for Cornette to fail with Cena, Batista, Lesnar, Benjamin, Orton, the Bashams, Dinsmore, Morgan.  Hell - I can argue that even more of his guys should have been big stars!

Really?  Ya think so?

Because all but 4 of those guys aren't even in the business anymore, and it wasn't until Triple H or Stephanie took notice of the others that they got a break.

I realize that's counter to the argument that Cornette had anything to do with their success, but it's also about who ya know.  Of those, only Lesnar was destined to really break out. 

That's my fucking point...If Cornette were so damn good, ALL of those guys would have made it big - along with Romeo, Antonio, Rico, etc.  The OVW crew from that time frame was far better than the Power Pro Wrestling crew from 97-00 that preceded them, and if you look at that "team photo", there were more long time pros than any of the OVW days.  And that's not Danny Davis' fault.

But making it big has nothing to do with anything except getting the company behind you.  Certainly a guy like Benjamin is a million times more talented and charismatic than Orton, but that doesn't mean anything.  If someone wants to knock Cornette, I think the best way to do it is to say that he wasn't able to convince WWE to try to make Matt Morgan a star, but Paul Heyman eventually was able to convince them to make CM Punk a star.  But Cornette backed a bad horse because even with opportunities in TNA, he clearly didn't have "it". 



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Yeah, Morgan was a puzzler. He looked like he had it all, the stature, decent enough ability and decent enough on the mike, but he couldn't put it all together. It was almost as if he was trying too hard. And as a result his promos made him look smaller than he was, if that makes sense.



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Infamous wrote: For all the shit talk Cornette does about WWE, WCW, ECW, TNA, etc. you'd think he'd have been able to get SMW over & farther along than he did especially since listening to him preach about how they don't know what they're doing

If TNA is treated as a non-profit ATM machine then that's far more than SMW ever was. And I'm sure it hurts a little inside for Cornette to know that an ignorant money mark woman got a wrestling company off the ground & further along than Jim could ever dream of with his 'ideas'

Did SMW ever make it out of his mom's basement ? Because THAT is why its easy to see thru Cornette. He can be funny with some success to back it up with but he is full of shit. He writes checks bigger than he is capable of cashing

A true carny

SMW came along at the wrong time (when people were burned out on wrestling) in the wrong part of the country (small, impoverished mountain towns).

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martini wrote: Yajuta is angry because Paul Ellering didn't say this gem.Wow, I am not sure if I will ever recuperate from the absolute internet shellacking you just gave me there.  So witty and razor sharp that barb was.  I shall just go in the corner to lick my virtual wounds.



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Cornette is right when he says that the braintrusts in wrestling have forgotten the basics that make any promotion a success.  What Jimbo fails to see, however, is that he himself has never learned what makes wrestling successful in the Sports Entertainment age.  He is a dinosaur who keeps making the same valid point over and over, without ever understanding that he too is a failure.

Look at guys like Dutch Mantell and even Dusty Rhodes.  Old school guys who never forgot what made them successful, but were wise enough to realize that times change.  Both of those guys extended their careers and were responsible for aiding the nascent careers of many of the current crop of Superstars, simply because they were able to teach Wrestling 101 while never losing sight of Sport Entertainment.

Cornette is simply pissed that it's no longer 1980, and he has never been able to get over the fact that nothing is ever as it was.



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HarryG wrote: Cornette is right when he says that the braintrusts in wrestling have forgotten the basics that make any promotion a success.  What Jimbo fails to see, however, is that he himself has never learned what makes wrestling successful in the Sports Entertainment age.  He is a dinosaur who keeps making the same valid point over and over, without ever understanding that he too is a failure.

Look at guys like Dutch Mantell and even Dusty Rhodes.  Old school guys who never forgot what made them successful, but were wise enough to realize that times change.  Both of those guys extended their careers and were responsible for aiding the nascent careers of many of the current crop of Superstars, simply because they were able to teach Wrestling 101 while never losing sight of Sport Entertainment.

Cornette is simply pissed that it's no longer 1980, and he has never been able to get over the fact that nothing is ever as it was.

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