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 Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 01:33 am
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When Ernie Roth went to the WWWF doing basically the same gimmick he was doing as Abdullah Farouk, was he given the Grand Wizard name as a rib? Since it's also the name of a high rank in the KKK and Roth was both gay and Jewish, it sure seems like it (albeit more Bruce Hart's sense of humor than a McMahon's).

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 Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 08:07 pm
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Wow Bix!  Interesting question.  I never even thought of it from that angle.  Loved The Grand Wizard, BTW.  Where's Smokey when you need him?

 

Ernie Roth is one guy who I really wish had made a shoot interview before he passed.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 08:14 pm
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Bix wrote: Roth was both gay
Has that ever been confirmed?

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 Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 09:04 pm
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The story I remember reading is Roth was once involved in a relationship with Beautiful Bobby of WWWF Fame. BB aka Bob Harmon.



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 Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 01:40 am
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Bix wrote: When Ernie Roth went to the WWWF doing basically the same gimmick he was doing as Abdullah Farouk, was he given the Grand Wizard name as a rib? Since it's also the name of a high rank in the KKK and Roth was both gay and Jewish, it sure seems like it (albeit more Bruce Hart's sense of humor than a McMahon's).

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I've kind of wondered that at times.  FOr some reason though because it was Vince SR and not Junior,  I'm less inclined to think so.

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drdelaware wrote: Bix wrote: When Ernie Roth went to the WWWF doing basically the same gimmick he was doing as Abdullah Farouk, was he given the Grand Wizard name as a rib? Since it's also the name of a high rank in the KKK and Roth was both gay and Jewish, it sure seems like it (albeit more Bruce Hart's sense of humor than a McMahon's).

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I've kind of wondered that at times.  FOr some reason though because it was Vince SR and not Junior,  I'm less inclined to think so.


Me too. Are there any documented instances of wrestlers being given a name or gimmick as a rib by a booker or promoter before the 80's?

Actually the only one I can think of ever happening, is Vince giving Soul Train Jones the Virgil name as a rib on Dusty Rhodes. There must be more though that I'm just not thinking of at the moment.

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carpetbeggar wrote: drdelaware wrote: Bix wrote: When Ernie Roth went to the WWWF doing basically the same gimmick he was doing as Abdullah Farouk, was he given the Grand Wizard name as a rib? Since it's also the name of a high rank in the KKK and Roth was both gay and Jewish, it sure seems like it (albeit more Bruce Hart's sense of humor than a McMahon's).

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I've kind of wondered that at times.  FOr some reason though because it was Vince SR and not Junior,  I'm less inclined to think so.


Me too. Are there any documented instances of wrestlers being given a name or gimmick as a rib by a booker or promoter before the 80's?



Absolutely, I've heard of a lot but I'm blanking out right now.  I need to think about it.  But Sr. was no saint either.



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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 05:48 pm
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This strays a little from the GW subject, but this type of thread was brought up on the old KM board (I wish I would have copied a lot more of those threads).  It was an interesting thread.  There was mention of Albano dropping names of people during interviews.  For example may have to referred to a Dr. Horatio Bulbka during his interview, and there was definitely a guy named Horatio Bulbka, but he was no doctor, just a guy that Albano met in a bar in Long Island. 

I cannot recall off the top of my head any names used as a rib before Junior took over.

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