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 Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2014 09:15 pm
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Sean Waltman just posted the following -

My thoughts go out to Taker, I realize what happened now and I apologize for publicly questioning the finish. That's all I'm going to say.
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It was a knee jerk reaction & I shouldn't have tweeted my opinion without knowing the facts. I'm not at liberty to comment further

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 Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2014 09:19 pm
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This is in reference to the fact that 'Taker made the call to job. The finish was clearly planned though. According to Meltzer (so take it for what it's worth), less than 10 people in the world knew 'Taker was losing and the shock among even the boys in the back was very real. So I'm sure some stupid things were tweeted.  He did suffer a concussion though and was very much out of it on the walk up the ramp. 

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Brock Lesnar broke the Undertakers streak, and God gave Mr T's mama a credit.

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srossi wrote: This is in reference to the fact that 'Taker made the call to job. The finish was clearly planned though. According to Meltzer (so take it for what it's worth), less than 10 people in the world knew 'Taker was losing and the shock among even the boys in the back was very real. So I'm sure some stupid things were tweeted.  He did suffer a concussion though and was very much out of it on the walk up the ramp.
And that's enough for me.  Makes total sense.

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The ten people who knew were likely Vince, Steph, Hunter, Linda, Taker, Brock, Heyman, the referee, Kevin Dunn, and the agent who put the match together.

The rumors and claims of a botched finish leading to the wrong winner or Taker calling an audible to let Brock win are ridiculous. It's a case of folks not wanting to believe the streak is over and that Brock was the one who did it. So they create excuses and explanations to somehow justify decisions they don't agree with. The fact is the streak ended almost certainly at Taker's behest and that Brock was his handpicked selection as the winner due to Taker's love of MMA and his desire to go out to a "real fighter". This has the potential to be the new "Montreal was a work" for the fanbase based on the momentum various conspiracy theories are getting today.

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Seems like a bad move business-wise. Lesnar won't benefit from it because he'll be gone once he makes his cash.

Would have been smarter to break it with someone that is going to stick around.



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tamalie wrote: The ten people who knew were likely Vince, Steph, Hunter, Linda, Taker, Brock, Heyman, the referee, Kevin Dunn, and the agent

I need to re-watch the match to see if the announcers seemed to know. I don't think they did, but that's unusual. WCW used to be famous for trying to surprise the announcers, but Vince always believed in the announcers knowing the finish so they could present the story better. 



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 Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2014 11:13 pm
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There are so few guys on the roster who
1) would make it beleivable that they beat The Taker
2) Had not already jobbed to him at Wrestlemania
3) combining the top 2 need the rub from beating Taker

They could have put Bryan Danilson over but he really doesn't need that rub, other guys aren't ready so Lesnar is a ok choice to do it. Taker physically can't take these beatings any more so its time for him to settle into that backstage agent role.



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I think Taker should have taken the streak to retirement and that if he was going to end it there were better picks than Brock. However, this is what Undertaker wanted and no one was going to argue with him given the amount of time he's put in.

One of the most interesting things about the streak was I don't remember it being addressed until he beat Flair at WM18. It wasn't part of an angle until he faced Randy Orton, then in full Legend Killer gimmick, at WM21 (I thought Orton would win). Although it was referenced for the Batista and Edge matches at WM23 and WM24, the streak didn't really seem to become The Streak in a larger than life sense until he beat Shawn Michaels at WM25. Since then it has become this enormous thing that was to some extent bigger than Undertaker himself.

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What were people expecting, UT to win so he can face Sting next year in a battle of geezers??? Brock was a good pick, they shocked the crowd and created a 'WrestleMania Moment'.

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There are so few guys on the roster who
1) would make it beleivable that they beat The Taker
2) Had not already jobbed to him at Wrestlemania
3) combining the top 2 need the rub from beating Taker

They could have put Bryan Danilson over but he really doesn't need that rub, other guys aren't ready so Lesnar is a ok choice to do it. Taker physically can't take these beatings any more so its time for him to settle into that backstage agent role.

Why would Taker travel and work backstage? I really don't think that He needs the money.

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Yeah I imagine that is who Undertaker wanted to lose to.  I agree with an earlier post that it doesn't make as much business sense considering Brock isn't full time.

If I were picking, I actually would have chosen Big Show.  I think he would have appreciated it, and deserves a real Wrestlemania moment.  He's been with the company a long time, and clearly will job to anyone.

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They had a pre-made 21-1 graphic. It was the planned finish.

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One of former WWE writers said Taker picked Brock 3 years ago.



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Hisa wrote: One of former WWE writers said Taker picked Brock 3 years ago.
Meltzer stated the same thing on his WM recap audio show with Alvarez and Sempervine.



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