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 Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 08:11 pm
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=tgkq0nVN7kc

love the arm rub.  HAHA!

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 Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 09:32 pm
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That was funny but geez the guy's got nothing left, they've jobbed him to everyone now. What on earth can they do with him down the road? Nothing I think. He'll end up like another Eugene, working indy shows in a year.
Quite a shame too as I like watching him a lot.

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I really don't think so.

I think he could easily be an upper midcarder.  When he loses, no one cares.  I don't see anyone other than the smarks (myself included) out there talking about how he's such a loser.

He's a comedy wrestler, and that's how he stays over.

But with just a bit of a push, that could easily transcend into him getting wins and becoming a competent challenger and still keep the comedy.

Just my own opinion though...

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 Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:08 pm
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DaNkinator wrote: I really don't think so.

I think he could easily be an upper midcarder.  When he loses, no one cares.  I don't see anyone other than the smarks (myself included) out there talking about how he's such a loser.

He's a comedy wrestler, and that's how he stays over.

But with just a bit of a push, that could easily transcend into him getting wins and becoming a competent challenger and still keep the comedy.

Just my own opinion though...

I very much agree with you.



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 Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:18 pm
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carpetbeggar wrote: That was funny but geez the guy's got nothing left, they've jobbed him to everyone now. What on earth can they do with him down the road? Nothing I think. He'll end up like another Eugene, working indy shows in a year.
Quite a shame too as I like watching him a lot.
Sadly, while I hope Anthony has a longer run than that - I have a funny feeling you may be right here.  

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Santino's pretty cool and I think he gets cooler pretty much every week.  Eugene did not get cooler every week.



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Eugene needed to win to be over.  When he stopped winning, he wasn't over.  Santino is over because he doesn't win.  And he never should.  He doesn't need to. 



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Plus, he could drop out for a few months, change his look and stop using the TV-Italian accent, and get over as a completely different type of wrestler.  He is talented.



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Yep, I thought his match as IC Champ against US Champ MVP was pretty good.



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 Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 12:52 pm
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HarryG wrote: Plus, he could drop out for a few months, change his look and stop using the TV-Italian accent, and get over as a completely different type of wrestler.  He is talented.Yes - he IS talented.  When Anthony was training for pro with Don Kolov, I had been using a couple of Kolov alumni on my shows (George 'Dynamite' Terzis - who had worked a couple of shots with Zero-One as George Silva and was a legit shooter: and Rico 'Xzibit' Montana, another legit shooter who has worked Puerto Rico and works in Mexico as 'The Canadian Prophecy' and starred in a soap opera down there) and Matt (Rico) asked me if I could give Anthony a shot.  That one 'shot' turned into 3 years of work for Anthony, who had some absolutely amazing matches with Terzis and was one of the hardest working and respectful guys both in and out of the ring. 

Anyways, during this time Anthony also spent 9 months in Japan training at the BattlArts dojo before going down to Ohio Valley and on his first night in he had the Cornette incident happen with his young daughter watching.  Anthony's situation was in limbo, and while I tried to call Vince direct (yeah I know...fuckin' dreamer) as I have spoken to him over the years - I realized that one guy who could get Anthony's story out was Dave Meltzer.  Dave has always been great with me over the years, and when I sent him the story of Anthony's background as well as how he could have just reached out and literally killed Cornette if he wished - Dave had the story up in a matter of an hour or so and Anthony said that it was read by EVERYONE and the decision to keep him and ditch Cornette was a pretty easy one.  Anthony never found out it was me who wrote in to Meltzer until we spoke at a show - the last show I ever promoted under the Ring Wars banner - a few months later when he was home.  Let me tell you what kind of guy that Anthony is:  he had just been signed a couple of years ago and I had a big show scheduled that he BEGGED Nova and Vince that he be allowed to do for me in Ontario.  They told him he could attend the show; smile and play nice - but do nothing in the ring.  So, Anthony being the guy that he is - genuine - worked the sound board and rang the bell for the show!

My point is - Anthony is an amazingly resilient guy with talent and imagination, and a good heart.  A rarity these days in the business - but what you see with him is REAL! Anthony told me over lunch not long ago that he knows this is his time - and if it lasts he will be happy - and if it doesn't he will have fulfilled his dream.  Through it all, he is humble and thankful and while the WWE changes ideas and talent with no rhyme or reason - I hope they let Anthony shine and continue to ply his trade in WWE.

Trust me - the guy CAN work.  The matches he and George put on just a few short years ago would blow the roof off any WWE show if given the chance, and what you have seen from him so far is what they have allowed him to be/do.               

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still fabin wrote: HarryG wrote: Plus, he could drop out for a few months, change his look and stop using the TV-Italian accent, and get over as a completely different type of wrestler.  He is talented.Yes - he IS talented.  When Anthony was training for pro with Don Kolov, I had been using a couple of Kolov alumni on my shows (George 'Dynamite' Terzis - who had worked a couple of shots with Zero-One as George Silva and was a legit shooter: and Rico 'Xzibit' Montana, another legit shooter who has worked Puerto Rico and works in Mexico as 'The Canadian Prophecy' and starred in a soap opera down there) and Matt (Rico) asked me if I could give Anthony a shot.  That one 'shot' turned into 3 years of work for Anthony, who had some absolutely amazing matches with Terzis and was one of the hardest working and respectful guys both in and out of the ring. 

Anyways, during this time Anthony also spent 9 months in Japan training at the BattlArts dojo before going down to Ohio Valley and on his first night in he had the Cornette incident happen with his young daughter watching.  Anthony's situation was in limbo, and while I tried to call Vince direct (yeah I know...fuckin' dreamer) as I have spoken to him over the years - I realized that one guy who could get Anthony's story out was Dave Meltzer.  Dave has always been great with me over the years, and when I sent him the story of Anthony's background as well as how he could have just reached out and literally killed Cornette if he wished - Dave had the story up in a matter of an hour or so and Anthony said that it was read by EVERYONE and the decision to keep him and ditch Cornette was a pretty easy one.  Anthony never found out it was me who wrote in to Meltzer until we spoke at a show - the last show I ever promoted under the Ring Wars banner - a few months later when he was home.  Let me tell you what kind of guy that Anthony is:  he had just been signed a couple of years ago and I had a big show scheduled that he BEGGED Nova and Vince that he be allowed to do for me in Ontario.  They told him he could attend the show; smile and play nice - but do nothing in the ring.  So, Anthony being the guy that he is - genuine - worked the sound board and rang the bell for the show!

My point is - Anthony is an amazingly resilient guy with talent and imagination, and a good heart.  A rarity these days in the business - but what you see with him is REAL! Anthony told me over lunch not long ago that he knows this is his time - and if it lasts he will be happy - and if it doesn't he will have fulfilled his dream.  Through it all, he is humble and thankful and while the WWE changes ideas and talent with no rhyme or reason - I hope they let Anthony shine and continue to ply his trade in WWE.

Trust me - the guy CAN work.  The matches he and George put on just a few short years ago would blow the roof off any WWE show if given the chance, and what you have seen from him so far is what they have allowed him to be/do.               

What kind of character/gimmick did he do while working for you?

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Anthony was a aggressive babyface.  He worked an unusual style where he was basically a 50/50 guy who also did some high flying.  Unlike most guys who work 50/50 - Anthony had good basic pyschology and knew how/when to work the crowd.

His work name then was Johnny GeoBasco. 

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That's a great story.

I have to ask ya though, back then, did you know that he had that comedic side to him? 

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As a person...FOR SURE.  Anthony has always been funny and I can see alot of his humour in Santino.  In the ring though, I seen it twice:  once, when we were short bodies, he worked as Sensei Hiroshima, a masked Oriental Assassin gimmick used for jobs and usually played by a guy who was about 165 pounds.  So, you can imagine how everything fit when Ant came out wearing the gimmick, BAREFOOT no less, adn he portrayed like a cross between Jerry Lewis in that movie when he portrayed a Japanese; and Kato in The Pink Panther.  It was funny as shit, and Anthony walked aorund the rest of the night acting like Sensei.

He was also back from Ohio Valley and worked a Slaughterhouse Battle Royal where he did tons of comedy.  This was my oldest sons' first match and he said they couldn't stop laughing as Anthony would morph from a madman into comedy and back again.  The crowd loved it.  The funniest spot was when he had 3 guys selling 'Karate shots' from a plastic garbage can he kept swinging in a way that reminded me of Bugsy McGraw back in the day. 

So yeah - he was creatively funny both in and out of the ring, so that part of his character I understand completely.            

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I loved Santino's post match skit with the Glamazon or whatever her name is tonight (07/28/08). Pretty Awesome IMO and he sold the big smooch perfect too.

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