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Angelic Assassin wrote: silentkiller wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: Benlen wrote:
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Benlen wrote:Curry is already better than Bird. He owns the 3 pt line. He's averging this yr 30 + points a game and he only plays 4 minutes in the 4th quarter. He's leading the warriors to a 70 plus win season.



That honestly might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site....hell on the whole internet. So you're saying that Steph Curry is already better than a guy that was part of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players team and is on 99.99 % of every top 10 list made whether it was from a fan or somebody from the media ???? I really hope you're just f*cking around here.


Not kidding. Curry is already better than Bird. Bird played with other top 50 players...
Archibald
Cowans
Maravich
McHale
Parrish
Walton
not to mention Maxwell,Ainge,Lewis,etc etc

Who does Curry play with? They are gonna win close to 75 games this year. Without him no chance. He's the best shooter you have ever seen in decades. He's the face of the NBA now.

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Curry is putting up a Bird/Jordan like peak but it's way too premature to call him top 10 alltime. I have him in the top 40 ever but he's a few years away from being even top 15.

Curious on what are the metrics used to determine his peak?

You take the square root of delusion plus the number of NBA games watched prior to 2010 and the circumference of a tse tse fly's nutsack divided by pi.

Do you watch basketball at all? Curry is leading the league in scoring while at over 30 a game while generally sitting out 4th quarters. His shooting percentages are at absurdly high level even though he shoots far more threes than any other player. Was easily the best player in the league last year and has insanely become an even player.
The guy has a strong case to again be MVP while at the same time winning Most Improved Player. The level he's at right now is a peak comparable to a Jordan/Bird like peak. 
Do you watch soap operas?  That is what this thread is turning into.  I don't care how you slice the salami, cut the cheese or whatever.  You and Benlen can keep banging that drum till the cows come home but until a panel of actual basketball experts puts out a list of the 10 best basketball players of all time and Curry is on it you are preaching to the choir.


Basketball now as compared to the days or Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and actual top ten all time players sucks.  Golden State's success is as much a testament to the general overall suckitude of the league and basketball in general as it is to how "good" they are.  I'm guessing you never saw some or most of the actual greats of basketball play but you all can keep drinking the koolaid on Curry.


The true greats of the game for the most part dominated the game without the "look at me attitude" of most of the players of todays game which is why I don't consider Kobe beef to be one of the all time greats either.
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Agreed on most of that. The guys of today would get punked like bitches if they played in the 80's, no way Curry does what he does now then when they actually, you know, PLAYED DEFENSE.  But I will say for the way the game is today, he's at the top of it for sure. 
Course, 30 years ago they also called traveling, which they don't even bother with these days, guys are legit taking 5-6 steps now and not getting called on it, it's insane. 



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Angelic Assassin wrote: silentkiller wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: Benlen wrote:
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Benlen wrote:Curry is already better than Bird. He owns the 3 pt line. He's averging this yr 30 + points a game and he only plays 4 minutes in the 4th quarter. He's leading the warriors to a 70 plus win season.



That honestly might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site....hell on the whole internet. So you're saying that Steph Curry is already better than a guy that was part of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players team and is on 99.99 % of every top 10 list made whether it was from a fan or somebody from the media ???? I really hope you're just f*cking around here.


Not kidding. Curry is already better than Bird. Bird played with other top 50 players...
Archibald
Cowans
Maravich
McHale
Parrish
Walton
not to mention Maxwell,Ainge,Lewis,etc etc

Who does Curry play with? They are gonna win close to 75 games this year. Without him no chance. He's the best shooter you have ever seen in decades. He's the face of the NBA now.

Silentkiller wrote:
Curry is putting up a Bird/Jordan like peak but it's way too premature to call him top 10 alltime. I have him in the top 40 ever but he's a few years away from being even top 15.

Curious on what are the metrics used to determine his peak?

You take the square root of delusion plus the number of NBA games watched prior to 2010 and the circumference of a tse tse fly's nutsack divided by pi.

Do you watch basketball at all? Curry is leading the league in scoring while at over 30 a game while generally sitting out 4th quarters. His shooting percentages are at absurdly high level even though he shoots far more threes than any other player. Was easily the best player in the league last year and has insanely become an even player.
The guy has a strong case to again be MVP while at the same time winning Most Improved Player. The level he's at right now is a peak comparable to a Jordan/Bird like peak. 
Do you watch soap operas?  That is what this thread is turning into.  I don't care how you slice the salami, cut the cheese or whatever.  You and Benlen can keep banging that drum till the cows come home but until a panel of actual basketball experts puts out a list of the 10 best basketball players of all time and Curry is on it you are preaching to the choir.


Basketball now as compared to the days or Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and actual top ten all time players sucks.  Golden State's success is as much a testament to the general overall suckitude of the league and basketball in general as it is to how "good" they are.  I'm guessing you never saw some or most of the actual greats of basketball play but you all can keep drinking the koolaid on Curry.


The true greats of the game for the most part dominated the game without the "look at me attitude" of most of the players of todays game which is why I don't consider Kobe beef to be one of the all time greats either.
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Blah blah everything today sucks and it was only good when I was a kid. That's exactly what your post sounds like. 
And there is no relation to actually being good at your sport and having a look at me attitude. But all the greats of the past were saints and angels.



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Married Jo wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: silentkiller wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: Benlen wrote:
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Benlen wrote:Curry is already better than Bird. He owns the 3 pt line. He's averging this yr 30 + points a game and he only plays 4 minutes in the 4th quarter. He's leading the warriors to a 70 plus win season.



That honestly might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site....hell on the whole internet. So you're saying that Steph Curry is already better than a guy that was part of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players team and is on 99.99 % of every top 10 list made whether it was from a fan or somebody from the media ???? I really hope you're just f*cking around here.


Not kidding. Curry is already better than Bird. Bird played with other top 50 players...
Archibald
Cowans
Maravich
McHale
Parrish
Walton
not to mention Maxwell,Ainge,Lewis,etc etc

Who does Curry play with? They are gonna win close to 75 games this year. Without him no chance. He's the best shooter you have ever seen in decades. He's the face of the NBA now.

Silentkiller wrote:
Curry is putting up a Bird/Jordan like peak but it's way too premature to call him top 10 alltime. I have him in the top 40 ever but he's a few years away from being even top 15.

Curious on what are the metrics used to determine his peak?

You take the square root of delusion plus the number of NBA games watched prior to 2010 and the circumference of a tse tse fly's nutsack divided by pi.

Do you watch basketball at all? Curry is leading the league in scoring while at over 30 a game while generally sitting out 4th quarters. His shooting percentages are at absurdly high level even though he shoots far more threes than any other player. Was easily the best player in the league last year and has insanely become an even player.
The guy has a strong case to again be MVP while at the same time winning Most Improved Player. The level he's at right now is a peak comparable to a Jordan/Bird like peak. 
Do you watch soap operas?  That is what this thread is turning into.  I don't care how you slice the salami, cut the cheese or whatever.  You and Benlen can keep banging that drum till the cows come home but until a panel of actual basketball experts puts out a list of the 10 best basketball players of all time and Curry is on it you are preaching to the choir.


Basketball now as compared to the days or Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and actual top ten all time players sucks.  Golden State's success is as much a testament to the general overall suckitude of the league and basketball in general as it is to how "good" they are.  I'm guessing you never saw some or most of the actual greats of basketball play but you all can keep drinking the koolaid on Curry.


The true greats of the game for the most part dominated the game without the "look at me attitude" of most of the players of todays game which is why I don't consider Kobe beef to be one of the all time greats either.
Close thread.    

Agreed on most of that. The guys of today would get punked like bitches if they played in the 80's, no way Curry does what he does now then when they actually, you know, PLAYED DEFENSE.  But I will say for the way the game is today, he's at the top of it for sure. 
Course, 30 years ago they also called traveling, which they don't even bother with these days, guys are legit taking 5-6 steps now and not getting called on it, it's insane. 

Funny considering that the teams with the greatest defensive numbers in NBA history were the 90's Knicks, the early 2000's Spurs, the '08 Celtics and the 60's Celtics. 
I find it laughable to think Curry wouldn't dominate in any era.



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silentkiller wrote: Married Jo wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: silentkiller wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: Benlen wrote:
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Benlen wrote:Curry is already better than Bird. He owns the 3 pt line. He's averging this yr 30 + points a game and he only plays 4 minutes in the 4th quarter. He's leading the warriors to a 70 plus win season.



That honestly might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site....hell on the whole internet. So you're saying that Steph Curry is already better than a guy that was part of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players team and is on 99.99 % of every top 10 list made whether it was from a fan or somebody from the media ???? I really hope you're just f*cking around here.


Not kidding. Curry is already better than Bird. Bird played with other top 50 players...
Archibald
Cowans
Maravich
McHale
Parrish
Walton
not to mention Maxwell,Ainge,Lewis,etc etc

Who does Curry play with? They are gonna win close to 75 games this year. Without him no chance. He's the best shooter you have ever seen in decades. He's the face of the NBA now.

Silentkiller wrote:
Curry is putting up a Bird/Jordan like peak but it's way too premature to call him top 10 alltime. I have him in the top 40 ever but he's a few years away from being even top 15.

Curious on what are the metrics used to determine his peak?

You take the square root of delusion plus the number of NBA games watched prior to 2010 and the circumference of a tse tse fly's nutsack divided by pi.

Do you watch basketball at all? Curry is leading the league in scoring while at over 30 a game while generally sitting out 4th quarters. His shooting percentages are at absurdly high level even though he shoots far more threes than any other player. Was easily the best player in the league last year and has insanely become an even player.
The guy has a strong case to again be MVP while at the same time winning Most Improved Player. The level he's at right now is a peak comparable to a Jordan/Bird like peak. 
Do you watch soap operas?  That is what this thread is turning into.  I don't care how you slice the salami, cut the cheese or whatever.  You and Benlen can keep banging that drum till the cows come home but until a panel of actual basketball experts puts out a list of the 10 best basketball players of all time and Curry is on it you are preaching to the choir.


Basketball now as compared to the days or Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and actual top ten all time players sucks.  Golden State's success is as much a testament to the general overall suckitude of the league and basketball in general as it is to how "good" they are.  I'm guessing you never saw some or most of the actual greats of basketball play but you all can keep drinking the koolaid on Curry.


The true greats of the game for the most part dominated the game without the "look at me attitude" of most of the players of todays game which is why I don't consider Kobe beef to be one of the all time greats either.
Close thread.    

Agreed on most of that. The guys of today would get punked like bitches if they played in the 80's, no way Curry does what he does now then when they actually, you know, PLAYED DEFENSE.  But I will say for the way the game is today, he's at the top of it for sure. 
Course, 30 years ago they also called traveling, which they don't even bother with these days, guys are legit taking 5-6 steps now and not getting called on it, it's insane. 

Funny considering that the teams with the greatest defensive numbers in NBA history were the 90's Knicks, the early 2000's Spurs, the '08 Celtics and the 60's Celtics. 
I find it laughable to think Curry wouldn't dominate in any era.
Fucking millenials!



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You do realize that many basketball purists consider the 3-point shot a gimmick, much like the Faerie Tale Theater the NHL is becoming with the ever increasing necessity to butcher the game as it was meant to be played.

Many players actually deserving of being considered for the top 10 of all time never had the luxury of the 3-point shot to pad their stats.  Curry is like the designated hitter in baseball.  He's in the game the whole time in a sense but he's in there for one thing pretty much.  Curry shoots all day long and the NBA today is all about spacing the floor and giving these "specialists" more space to do their thing.

While Bird played in the 3 point era how many more baskets would he have had, regular baskets not the carny variety had he been able to stroll all over the court holding the ball like a baby.  I'm not even sure the officials today even know what travelling is any more even though it is happening in front of them all the time.

There is no defense now either where shooting a stern look at an opposing player send him to the line for more freebies.  

Yes Curry is good in today's NBA and it's not a stretch to say he has surpassed LeBron as the best currently active(notwithstanding I listed Lebron in my top 10 but he's played longer and if he visited here would have pouted like a baby not seeing his name on someone's list and demanded a trade to another board) but he has not built up a top 10 resume at this point.  The Pistons of the mid to late 80's would have beaten the ever loving shit out of Steph Curry but their isn't a single team even close to that kind of team in today's NBA and San FagCisco's er I mean Golden State's record speaks as much to how utterly horrible and unwatchable today's game is and as much to how bad teams are overall.  The only other really good team in the NBA is the Spurs.  Then you have a bunch of really not much better than average teams, a bunch of below average teams and then a handful that absolutely suck because that's a strategy more so than I've ever seen it in team sports. 



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1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
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5. Oscar Robertson
6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
7. Larry Bird
8. Kobe Bryant
9. Tim Duncan
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You do realize that many basketball purists consider the 3-point shot a gimmick, much like the Faerie Tale Theater the NHL is becoming with the ever increasing necessity to butcher the game as it was meant to be played.

Many players actually deserving of being considered for the top 10 of all time never had the luxury of the 3-point shot to pad their stats. Curry is like the designated hitter in baseball. He's in the game the whole time in a sense but he's in there for one thing pretty much. Curry shoots all day long and the NBA today is all about spacing the floor and giving these "specialists" more space to do their thing.

While Bird played in the 3 point era how many more baskets would he have had, regular baskets not the carny variety had he been able to stroll all over the court holding the ball like a baby. I'm not even sure the officials today even know what travelling is any more even though it is happening in front of them all the time.

There is no defense now either where shooting a stern look at an opposing player send him to the line for more freebies.

Yes Curry is good in today's NBA and it's not a stretch to say he has surpassed LeBron as the best currently active(notwithstanding I listed Lebron in my top 10 but he's played longer and if he visited here would have pouted like a baby not seeing his name on someone's list and demanded a trade to another board) but he has not built up a top 10 resume at this point. The Pistons of the mid to late 80's would have beaten the ever loving shit out of Steph Curry but their isn't a single team even close to that kind of team in today's NBA and San FagCisco's er I mean Golden State's record speaks as much to how utterly horrible and unwatchable today's game is and as much to how bad teams are overall. The only other really good team in the NBA is the Spurs. Then you have a bunch of really not much better than average teams, a bunch of below average teams and then a handful that absolutely suck because that's a strategy more so than I've ever seen it in team sports.

I agree that a lot of teams today are bad. To be fair, the stars of every era get away with traveling, Bird, Jordan included. You could even say that no one got away with traveling more then Jordan. Today's game is a outside shooters paradise, while from the 90's on back, it was dominated by big men. Would Curry be a great player in those eras? Maybe. Would he score more then 25 PPG? Probably not as big men were more important. Practically every possession in the 70's & 80's ( that wasn't bad fast break), the ball was brought up the court and as soon as the center was able to post up, the ball went into the paint. These days, there are 3 on 1 fast breaks and the ball goes to the 3 pt. line and up goes a 25+ foot shot. It's a totally different mindset today.

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Angelic Assassin wrote: You do realize that many basketball purists consider the 3-point shot a gimmick, much like the Faerie Tale Theater the NHL is becoming with the ever increasing necessity to butcher the game as it was meant to be played.

Many players actually deserving of being considered for the top 10 of all time never had the luxury of the 3-point shot to pad their stats.  Curry is like the designated hitter in baseball.  He's in the game the whole time in a sense but he's in there for one thing pretty much.  Curry shoots all day long and the NBA today is all about spacing the floor and giving these "specialists" more space to do their thing.

While Bird played in the 3 point era how many more baskets would he have had, regular baskets not the carny variety had he been able to stroll all over the court holding the ball like a baby.  I'm not even sure the officials today even know what travelling is any more even though it is happening in front of them all the time.

There is no defense now either where shooting a stern look at an opposing player send him to the line for more freebies.  

I could tell you don't watch the current NBA games much less the Warriors. From the 80's to the mid 90's scoring was at its highest. Bird came in the league when the 3 pt line was adapted. He threw up 1800 shots from out there. He didn't put up more because he wasn't as efficient as Curry. Curry is the best ever at it so why wouldn't he keep putting up threes? He's more than a "specialist". You wouldn't know this but he's a fantastic passer. Last year he lead the league in steals. This year he's not so good. He second.
I have watched the NBA since the mid 60's. I doubt you were born yet. You wouldn't know back then after the 6th foul of any type put a player on the free throw line (one plus one). If it was a shooting foul you were given 3 shots to make 2. Did that turn off  purists like you when they got rid of those rules?
3 point line is here to stay. 7 footers like Durant and Nowitski are taking 3's.It's just like Mike Tomlin going for 2's instead of kicking the extra point. If you took 100 shots and made an amazing 60 of them you score 120 points. Curry  career average on 3's is 45 %.(He's shooting close to 48% this year but I will use his career aver) That's 135 points. You lose by 15.
If you don't like Curry that's fine but your missing out on a historic run by the Warriors.

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Dell Curry was ok with the Raptors, but he ain't no Top 10.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Dell Curry was ok with the Raptors, but he ain't no Top 10.LOL!

Benlen, I wish I wasn't born in the sixties.  Maybe this fucking discussion wouldn't be happening now.  I watched more basketball back in the Bird/Magic days and before than I do today because quite frankly I don't find the game as entertaining today.

Today it's like a bunch of borderline retarded school kids playing hooky and getting their plays from a Philadelphia Eagles playbook.



Steph Curry-hey coach I'm a gonna throw up a shot.  Um Steph, were still in the parking lot.



And why am I gonna watch the Golden State Warriors(racist fucking name and all) because oooh, boy oh boy, what I'm missing is spectacular.  I'm gonna watch the Raptors or preferably when basketball comes on I'm going to ask Ivana if she wants me to rock her world instead.


And old man you need to decide. What's your argument?  That I and everyone else here is missing some great spectacle not watching Lord Curry and the Golden State Warriors or that Steph Curry is one of the 10 best basketball players of all time?He's ugly and his mother dresses him funny.


Nobody cares about the former and nobody takes you seriously about the latter.  Or we'd have a Last Man Standing Basketball thread every day of the season and we'd have to hear daily about Horsey Bob's two fucking basketball wins.:tongue:

As it is we don't even have a 76ers thread going this season and they are even more woefully pathetic this season than last.

Oh I have seen Curry play but unlike you and rossipedia with kerry Von Erich I don't have boner pics of him and I am familiar with the extra free throw back in the day as a result of a foul.  Not as a present because we need more scoring in the game so lets shoot a stream of cum to make an imaginary line on a basketball court to reward the idiots for making shots from farther out.   When the 3 pt line was adopted it didn't become an immediate staple of the game like it is now.  It's all 3pt shots that are likely worked on in practice more than any fundamentals of basketball.Sure he's good at them because he was jacking them up in the hood from the time he was what 4 years old.


Watch basketball players shoot, it's a laugh riot.  The majority wouldn't put the ball in the Atlantic from 15 feet.   Today's game is terrible and is as much a channel changer for me as WWE is or most of the shows on regular network television are.

And I'll mention again I love's me some Curry.  Curry goat, chicken, fish, beef, lamb, shrimp you name it.  I won't curry favor though and I'm just not in a Curry to watch the On Golden Pond State Warriors play basketball.

All in fun Benlen, didn't realize you were so old, maybe your eyesight is going  and it's not even Steph Curry your watching.  Or maybe there's actually another zero after the first one and Curry has cracked the top 100.

At any rate I'm sure I'll have spun off this mortal coil before Curry is actually named one of the top 10 NBA players of all time.  Thank god.;)



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