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I came across an interesting promo that Flair cut in late 1985 (The build-up to Starrcade: The Gathering).  He mentioned that The Road Warriors were back in the NWA because they were "tired of playing with the kids in the AWA and were ready to come back to the major leagues."  I found that interesting because I never remembered any negative promos towards the AWA, in fact I never remembered them ever being mentioned period unless it was directly to promote a joint NWA-AWA Supercard.  Was wondering if any other comments were made along these lines.

Also, The Road Warriors were still appearing in the AWA up until early 1986, so Flair's comments would've been made before they even left.  Did the Warriors work both territories for a while?

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Yes. They were in both for the better part of a year. Mr Searchy is your friend.

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I recall Animal saying something to that effect on the LOD DVD. After they lost the tag belts to Jimmy Garvin and Steve Regal, they had put themselves in position to write their own ticket between AWA, Japan and JCP with Ellering getting the best value he could schedule for them.

Garvin himself talked about his initial appearances for JCP in 1986 and being razzed by Tully's and Flair at that point for not taking an offer to start with them a year prior, saying he thought he was "too good" for them. It sounded like a rib in that Garvin financially wound up making less money through that choice. it may have been ribbing on the square and the kind of jab that was a subtle way to emphasize that better talent overall was coming to JCP.

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Without digging up old magazines, my memory is that the Warriors began working Crockett in the Summer of '85 during the Bash. Can't remember if they wore the AWA belts to the ring, but they faced the Russians on the tour. Then in the Fall of '85, they lost the AWA belts eventually to Garvin/Regal, but they were bouncing around between the AWA and Japan. They hadn't committed to Crockett full-time until Spring of '86. By that time, they were working AWA sporadically, finishing up with WrestleRock '86 in Minneapolis. By that point, that was more of a one-shot. Actually with WrestleRock, I recall quite a few guys make their last appearance.

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Ric Flair was in the Twin Cities around 1982 to visit his family and while in town dropped by the studio when the AWA wrestlers were cutting promos. He was called the NWA Heavyweight Champion not NWA World Heavyweight Champion. As he exited the interview area he and Greg Gagne exchanged words as Greg and Jim Brunzell arrived to do their interview. To a fan watching, it seemed like they were angling for something with Ric and Greg, but nothing came of it. The NWA was positioned as another wrestling organization, but the AWA was put across as the true major league. The organizations were not presented as equals.

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tamalie wrote: Ric Flair was in the Twin Cities around 1982 to visit his family and while in town dropped by the studio when the AWA wrestlers were cutting promos. He was called the NWA Heavyweight Champion not NWA World Heavyweight Champion. As he exited the interview area he and Greg Gagne exchanged words as Greg and Jim Brunzell arrived to do their interview. To a fan watching, it seemed like they were angling for something with Ric and Greg, but nothing came of it. The NWA was positioned as another wrestling organization, but the AWA was put across as the true major league. The organizations were not presented as equals.
Seriously????? never heard about him appearing on one of their shows. would love to see this.

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We're there any other incidents of the 2 companies actually knocking each other, aside from just individual face vs. heel stuff?

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Spatulapup wrote: tamalie wrote: Ric Flair was in the Twin Cities around 1982 to visit his family and while in town dropped by the studio when the AWA wrestlers were cutting promos. He was called the NWA Heavyweight Champion not NWA World Heavyweight Champion. As he exited the interview area he and Greg Gagne exchanged words as Greg and Jim Brunzell arrived to do their interview. To a fan watching, it seemed like they were angling for something with Ric and Greg, but nothing came of it. The NWA was positioned as another wrestling organization, but the AWA was put across as the true major league. The organizations were not presented as equals.
Seriously????? never heard about him appearing on one of their shows. would love to see this.

Me neither.  Would absolutely love to see this.

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I remember the standoff with The High Flyers and Ric Flair on the interview set, but it was after the fact by a couple years since it wasn't set to air in any other market but the Twin Cities. Tamalie may be accurate in recalling the promo, but I don't have a recollection that the AWA was positioned that way. Maybe it was Verne subtly digging the knife a bit to cement his AWA storyline that his group was formed because the NWA champion refused to respond to Verne's challenge back in the late 50's... And so it goes.

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I certainly hope that appears someday but given it was a localized promo I doubt we will ever see it.

Sounds amazing though.

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Ric flair was amminnesota boy trained by gagne. Prob just getting some advertising in for both groups at once

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Blazer wrote: Without digging up old magazines, my memory is that the Warriors began working Crockett in the Summer of '85 during the Bash. Can't remember if they wore the AWA belts to the ring, but they faced the Russians on the tour.They did wear their belts to the ring, but were taken off as the Warriors blitzed the ring. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFWCYnuqcnQ

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Had JCP poached Blackwell in the Fall of 85 like they tried to, where do you see him fitting in?

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Hard to say. I don't recall hearing that JCP had tried to grab him.

I have heard that he had a deal with Vince in the summer of 1984 done, between the June battleroyal where Sheik et al fucked him up and his return in September. Rumor is that he walked into a St. Louis WWF locker room and got cold feet, and bailed, returning to the AWA for his future program with Brody.

As a fan I'm glad it went that way, as I don't think Vince would have used him as more than a mid-card guy, and probably a losing one not too long into his time there. Blackwell's future health problems probably would have cemented that sort of timeline for him in WWF land if nothing else.

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Blackwell was a perfect fit for the AWA. He wasn't that athletic ( but he was agile for a big fat guy). In the WWF, he would've even a 1-2 done with Hogan and then slide into an Akeem type role. In JCP, he would've not fit in at all, as most of the top tier guys could really move.

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khawk wrote: Hard to say. I don't recall hearing that JCP had tried to grab him.

I have heard that he had a deal with Vince in the summer of 1984 done, between the June battleroyal where Sheik et al fucked him up and his return in September. Rumor is that he walked into a St. Louis WWF locker room and got cold feet, and bailed, returning to the AWA for his future program with Brody.

As a fan I'm glad it went that way, as I don't think Vince would have used him as more than a mid-card guy, and probably a losing one not too long into his time there. Blackwell's future health problems probably would have cemented that sort of timeline for him in WWF land if nothing else.
Greg Gagne talks about it in a few shoots.  Specifically regarding @ SuperClash 85

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As much as I am an AWA guy and liked Blackwell's work, I just cannot imagine him in the WWF unless it was in some sort of role like Uncle Elmer.  

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Arnold_OldSchool wrote: khawk wrote: Hard to say. I don't recall hearing that JCP had tried to grab him.

I have heard that he had a deal with Vince in the summer of 1984 done, between the June battleroyal where Sheik et al fucked him up and his return in September. Rumor is that he walked into a St. Louis WWF locker room and got cold feet, and bailed, returning to the AWA for his future program with Brody.

As a fan I'm glad it went that way, as I don't think Vince would have used him as more than a mid-card guy, and probably a losing one not too long into his time there. Blackwell's future health problems probably would have cemented that sort of timeline for him in WWF land if nothing else.
Greg Gagne talks about it in a few shoots.  Specifically regarding @ SuperClash 85
 
This might be one case (of many) where Greg is full of it. I don't doubt that there might have been some "come to the NWA" talk in the dressing room that night, but actually trying to recruit Blackwell makes little sense in that time frame. The Roadies and some of the others, sure.



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