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 Posted: Sat Feb 13th, 2016 07:47 am
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So I'm watching this special on MSG Network and the new story, direct from Vince, is that regional promoters used to book their shows on the 1st and 15th of each month because that's when the welfare checks came in, and his goal with WM was to bring in the middle class. I'd love to see evidence of this in any record books. They also talk about the proverbial "smoke-filled arenas" despite mentioning 5 second earlier the decades of success the WWWF had at the very same MSG with Bruno and Backlund. 



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 Posted: Sat Feb 13th, 2016 07:59 am
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Maybe he felt like an old story needed a new twist. Like a version of the older I get the better I was stories people love to tell.



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Well that was a waste of time. They got Ben Stiller to narrate and in the end they gave us the same bullshit interviews by Hogan and Piper telling us that the main event was a shoot and everyone was trying to legitimately injure Mr. T.  And Andy Warhol.   I've never heard a WM story that didn't include how Warhol legitimized pro wrestling as art. As someone who was actually alive in 1985, did anyone actually give a shit about Andy Warhol in 1985?  Amazing how MSG can be so easily kayfabed in 2016. But at least they interviewed Tito too so Convoy is happy.

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Warhol was a non-factor in '85. The MTV stuff got Titan over HUGE, but Warhol had nothing to do with that. Martha Quinn had more to do with it than Andy Fucking Warhol.



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Blazer wrote: Warhol was a non-factor in '85. The MTV stuff got Titan over HUGE, but Warhol had nothing to do with that. Martha Quinn had more to do with it than Andy Fucking Warhol.
They dug up Alan Hunter to give a new interview for this. But no Martha Quinn, unfortunately. 



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srossi wrote: So I'm watching this special on MSG Network and the new story, direct from Vince, is that regional promoters used to book their shows on the 1st and 15th of each month because that's when the welfare checks came in, and his goal with WM was to bring in the middle class. I'd love to see evidence of this in any record books. They also talk about the proverbial "smoke-filled arenas" despite mentioning 5 second earlier the decades of success the WWWF had at the very same MSG with Bruno and Backlund. 
Maybe that's how Vince Sr. did it, but down south, most of the promotions ran weekly or bi-weekly. Paul Boesch ran Fridays because that's when most people got paid, and legend has it that's why Fritz moved the Sportatorium shows to Fridays after breaking away from the other Texas offices.



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12-13 yr olds in 1985 had no idea who andy warhol was...but they knew mtv, hogan, and mr t.



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Warhol's time had passed him by in 1985 and that is a huge reach by WWE.



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Who would win in a shoot: Andy Warhol or Billy Corgan?



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What I got out of Andy Warhol was basically a native New Yorker had been invited to watch the event at MSG (War to settle the Score) . He probably had nothing better to do that night , so he went to check it out to see what all the buzz was about Pro Wrestling. Since he was there , he was probably invited backstage and was asked if he`d like to say a few words on the mic. The same probably held true for Devito and Piscopo.

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It would be a double DQ. Steven Hawking would do a run-in...or wheel in which would stop the match. The double DQ is due to not really knowing who he is helping in the match

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I'm not sure if Andy Warhol or Liberace add anything to a wrestling show outside of it conveying that it's going to be a spectacle. People forget that WWF wasn't really trying to lure in people that were already fans but to trigger a larger audience to become wrestling fans. There is a difference

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I thought Andy Warhol had attended some MSG cards earlier in the 1980s when Debbie Harry and Chris Stein of Blondie frequented the cards. The WWF milked the celebrity angle for all it was worth in the 1984-85 timeframe, but with Cyndi Lauper on hand and MTV not completely reduced to being kid stuff, there was a celebrity bounce of sorts during the early expansion period. It died out by the latter part of 1985 as those who came for the camp value and to see and be seen moved on to other endeavors.

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