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Been watching a lot of SMW lately and hadn't realized how bad of a promo Robert Gibson was. 
He mumbled terribly and always said the same stuff. 
Ricky Morton really carried their interviews. 
Any other teams you guys can think of like this?

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To an extent, the Bulldogs. Davey could speak a bit, but Dynamite was bad....really bad.

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Paul Diamond was horrible, not that Pat Tanaka was Mr. Promo himself...

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Rocky Johnson definitely carried Tony Atlas.

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Hawk always seemed way better than Animal, and Michaels always seemed better than Jannetty. Animal & Jannetty weren't bad, just Hawk and Michaels seemed way better. 

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Booker T was so much better than Stevie Ray in every way, including on the mic. Which is why it's itonic that Stevie Ray became the WCW commentator, you fruit booties.

I honestly can't remember thinking Michaels was better than Jannetty until after the split. Michaels flipped a switch and became a charisma machine, and Jannetty never evolved. But before that they seemed about equal. Unlike the RnR Express, where Gibson always seemed far inferior from the beginning. 

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- Michael Hayes was the " promo guy " for the original version of The Fabulous Freebirds. 

- Ole Anderson was a much better talker than Gene Anderson.

- Ricky Steamboat was a much better talker than Jay Youngblood.

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Afa was much better at promos than Sika

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Bret Hart was always better than Neidhart

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mike3775 wrote: Bret Hart was always better than Neidhart
I think at the time Neidhart was considered the far better promo. Jimmy Hart talked for them, but Neidhart got more promo time than Bret. It took Bret a while to develop on the mic. 

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srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Bret Hart was always better than Neidhart
I think at the time Neidhart was considered the far better promo. Jimmy Hart talked for them, but Neidhart got more promo time than Bret. It took Bret a while to develop on the mic.
I always thought the opposite, Neidhart basically grunted and groaned and laughed alot, while Bret talked.  But true point about Jimmy carrying them.


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Yeah, it was Neudhart at the beginning who got the most mic time. It seemed Brett was still green on communicating for promos.

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Papa Voo wrote: Yeah, it was Neudhart at the beginning who got the most mic time. It seemed Brett was still green on communicating for promos.
At the beginning Neidhart was supposed to be the charisma guy with the interesting look, and Bret was seen as a pretty bland technical wrestler. But Neidhart showed he was pretty limited. When they first arrived in the WWF, Neidhart and Jimmy were splitting the promos about 50-50 and Bret said almost nothing and was horrible at even that. Neidhart was going really stereotypical '70s promos, kinda shouting and saying "daddy" and then had the trademark cackle at the end. After a year or two, Jimmy was handling the promos almost entirely, Neidhart would get a couple lines and the laugh, and Bret would continue to stare blankly behind the shades.  He was clearly uncomfortable with public speaking, then developed into being somewhat competent on the mic in the early '90s, and then by '97 I just thought he was phenomenal as far as "real" promos went as opposed to wrestling hype, although I know a lot of people unfairly say that he was never good. 

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For the heel version of Jack &Jerry Brisco.....Jerry blew Jack away. Jerry had a ball with the heel promos. Jack tried but Jerry was way smarmier and felt like a natural ass.

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I seem to remember the couple of Dream Team promos I saw were just Hart and Valentine, with Beefcake looking smug.

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srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Bret Hart was always better than Neidhart
I think at the time Neidhart was considered the far better promo. Jimmy Hart talked for them, but Neidhart got more promo time than Bret. It took Bret a while to develop on the mic. 


100% true.  Actually, at the beginning of the team and really until Hart split off for a bit to work Bad News, Neidhart was absolutely the better of the two.  Hart talks in his book about how bad he was and that he had to wear sunglasses in all of the interviews because he was a deer in headlights.

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kargol wrote: I seem to remember the couple of Dream Team promos I saw were just Hart and Valentine, with Beefcake looking smug.
You probably meant Valiant, correct?  The team used both managers at the VERY beginning of the run, but the number of promos with both had to have been very few.

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Blazer wrote: srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Bret Hart was always better than Neidhart
I think at the time Neidhart was considered the far better promo. Jimmy Hart talked for them, but Neidhart got more promo time than Bret. It took Bret a while to develop on the mic. 


100% true.  Actually, at the beginning of the team and really until Hart split off for a bit to work Bad News, Neidhart was absolutely the better of the two.  Hart talks in his book about how bad he was and that he had to wear sunglasses in all of the interviews because he was a deer in headlights.

I thought by 89/90 Bret started to get it going, I remember a few funny promos with Brett attempting to calm Jim down and such.

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kargol wrote: Wayne Bloom for Mike Enos.
Bloom was great with his " Hold on Mike I'll handle this one " and never letting Enos talk.  He does it @ 1:10 in.


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srossi wrote: mike3775 wrote: Bret Hart was always better than Neidhart
I think at the time Neidhart was considered the far better promo. Jimmy Hart talked for them, but Neidhart got more promo time than Bret. It took Bret a while to develop on the mic. 
  This. At first, Bret was silent, occasionally mumbling while Neidhart carried the promo.
Then Jimmy Hart became their mouthpiece.

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I recall some goof writing into PWI on this topic asking "Ever hear of a silent partner? Well, you probably have never heard FROM one..." Etc.

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Dennis Condrey adn Stan Lane were light years ahead of Bobby Eaton even though Cornette did much of the talking for both teams.

Mr. Wrestling II when he teamed with Hercules under a mask.(Midsouth Mr. Wrestling II became Mr Wrestling while Hernandez took the Wrestling II designation)

During the Hardys white hot run in the WWF Matt carried the load of the promo work.

Justin Credible was infinitely better than Lance Storm.

JBL carried the load with the APA.

Ken Patera thankfully did 99% of the talking for he and Rheingans.

Sarge was light years ahead of Don Kernodle.

Jake was galaxies better than John Nord.

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