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 Posted: Sat Jul 28th, 2018 03:09 am
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What was a bigger surprise to you at the time; Flair not wrestling Hogan at Wrestlemania 8 or Flair not wrestling at all at Summerslam 92? 

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How did Flair vs Hogan not headline a WrestleMania?

Loved Flair's early 1990s WWF run. Go find his MSG matches vs Hogan and Piper. They're great.

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Supposedly it was partly that Sid was guaranteed a Hogan match at Mania and the fact that Flair/Hogan didn't hold up at the box office. 
Perhaps a year later they could have kept Flair around for a while extra and used him as the catalyst for Hogan's return?  Flair assaults Beefer and Hogan calls him out for the Maina dream match.  

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I was shocked that Flair and Hogan didn't face each other at WrestleMania or at any other  WWF PPVs. Until YouTube, I had no idea that Flair and Hogan had wrestled each other at house shows. The house show promos that the WWF aired at the time simply told you who some (not all) of the wrestlers who were scheduled to appear, not what the actual matches would be.
I am also surprised to read that Hogan vs Flair didn't do well at the box office. The MSG match on YouTube makes it seem that MSG was packed and the crowd was really into the match. I am curious how a Hogan vs Flair match would have drawn outside of the Northeast - especially in NWA strong holds such as Atlanta, Greensboro, Florida, Dallas, etc. or in a city that typically drew large crowds for both WWF and NWA cards (such as Baltimore, Washington DC, etc).

Was the WWF still running multiple towns in the same night using different rosters (A team , B team, C team, etc)? If so, maybe not having Hogan and Flair face each other was a means to keep the headliner for each team strong (assuming a match like Hogan vs. Sid headlined the A team and a match like Flair vs Savage or Hart headlined the B team).

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they gave away the match way too early and with not much buildup. Flair was never going to beat Hogan anyways and we know why but it still could have played out a lot better than it did.

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another thing I noticed about Flair when he arrived in the WWF was that he looked smaller than he did in WCW/NWA

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Spatulapup wrote: another thing I noticed about Flair when he arrived in the WWF was that he looked smaller than he did in WCW/NWA
I think that was just because suddenly Flair was around a bunch of much larger guys.

I forget where I was reading this, and it was probably either in JJ's book, Ole's book or Watts' book, (maybe even Jerry Jarrett's book) where they were talking about the relative flop that was Flair vs Hogan on the house show circuit.  They put a lot of the cause for that on Hogan's ego being so much bigger than Flair's.  It was also what made Hogan vs Flair in WCW so lackluster in the following years, that Flair was far too accommodating of whatever Hogan wanted to do, and wasn't making much effort to protect himself in the booking.

They were saying this was also why Flair sort of became a non-entity in WCW in the later years, as he was being wasted by Bischoff & Co., but was just going along with whatever and collecting paycheck.

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I think what surprised me the most was the instant reaction he got. We are talking about a timeframe where most of the big names already went to WWF in the '80s and Flair was by far the biggest name that hadn't. When he came out the first time into an arena, the reaction was incredible as far as I'm concerned. The WWF crowd didn't fully know him, but they knew enough of him to take notice. And I think in the pre-internet days, a LOT of the crowd had no idea that he wasn't the NWA Champion anymore.



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I thought their feud in WCW was handled better. it was built way better. the matches had the same result of course because of Hogan but it wasn't the first time they faced each other so it was never going to be as special. a sad fact in both cases was that they were both past their prime when they finally faced each other anyways. Arn Anderson himself said Flair should have gone to WWF in at least 1988. by 1991 it wasn't the same.

As someone said, in their battles Flair should have stood up for himself in WWF and WCW and not so easy to please. because you just knew Flair had no chance with the Hogan Politics otherwise. Hogan caved to pressure and let Flair pin him once on Nitro with the help of a high heel shoe but other than that....

But even if he had gone in 1988 the results would have been the same.

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Flair in 88 wouldn’t have been any better if hogan was never going to lay down. Now if hogan would have played ball in 88 the WWF could have put together some crazy main event matches with hogan, flair, Jake, macho, DiBiase, Andre and then a returning piper in 89.



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