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 Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2019 06:38 pm
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Sad to see another great one pass away.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2019 08:06 pm
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So now the two oldest living WWWF/WWF/WWE World Champion are "Superstar" Billy Graham and The Iron Sheik?

Didn't see either of them outlasting Bruno, even with him being older than they are.



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I really enjoyed some of Pedro Morales' matches.  Seemed like a good guy.

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Pedro/Muraco matches were always outstanding.

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Rest In Peace Pedro Morales.


I was always a fan of his fire and intensity. The man "ALWAYS had a surprise and was ready for any kind of action".


I only ever saw him wrestle live once, which happened to be the first WWF card I went to as a kid.


One of my favorite era's of WWF wrestling I enjoy to go back and watch over and over again is between 1979 and 1983....Those early years of the Intercontinental Championship and the matches Pedro had with Ken Patera and Don Muraco. I also enjoyed him against Greg Valentine....Good "stuff".

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I had no idea he was fighting so many health problems. Nor did I realize how old he got - his last round in the WWF then WWC he was in his mid-50s



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R.I.P. I never got to see him in his prime and he’s probably the least appreciated face World champion pre-‘90s.



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Pedro gets unfairly maligned because most of the footage of him in circulation is from his IC run. By then he had stopped caring but could still put together a fantastic match with an elite level worker like Valentine or Muraco. The Pedro who was WWWF king had a three prong attack with high spots, chain wrestling, and convincing brawling. RIP to a truly great worker.



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WongLee wrote: Pedro gets unfairly maligned because most of the footage of him in circulation is from his IC run. By then he had stopped caring but could still put together a fantastic match with an elite level worker like Valentine or Muraco. The Pedro who was WWWF king had a three prong attack with high spots, chain wrestling, and convincing brawling. RIP to a truly great worker.

How over was he in NY? I saw him live in Chicago and he was so so. He really wasn't that old when Vince expanded. Why was he a glorified jobber and not used better?
RIP. He always came off as a great guy.

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BlueThunder wrote: WongLee wrote: Pedro gets unfairly maligned because most of the footage of him in circulation is from his IC run. By then he had stopped caring but could still put together a fantastic match with an elite level worker like Valentine or Muraco. The Pedro who was WWWF king had a three prong attack with high spots, chain wrestling, and convincing brawling. RIP to a truly great worker.

How over was he in NY? I saw him live in Chicago and he was so so. He really wasn't that old when Vince expanded. Why was he a glorified jobber and not used better?
RIP. He always came off as a great guy.


Pedro turned 42 in late 1984. Like Wong said, I think once the 80's came he starting adopting the "less is more" philosophy. I have no idea what kind of shape he was in physically by that time, if his knees were shot, etc. With the intense schedule the WWF adopted once '84 hit and the bigger money that was available for the wrestlers by working that schedule, I would wager he started doing less in order to prolong his career in order to make as much as he could. As far as how he was used...I think Vince thought where he was older now and had that one last big run during the last years of his Father running things, Pedro could be used to build the new, younger talent brought in starting in '84, as he still would have had enough of a reputation among the fans where someone beating him convincingly would have meant something. This is all speculation of course. I do have to say that out of all the talent that were top guys during Vince Sr's time, that Vince Jr, probably used up Pedro the most. Although Baron Scicluna would be near the top of that list. Strongbow and Putski never seemed to be used in that role as bad as Pedro did. I can only imagine what '86, '87 and '88 would have looked like if Backlund had of stuck around that long.

One thing you have to give Pedro credit for, is that when motivated, the man was still extremely exciting to watch doing the "less is more" shtick.

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BlueThunder wrote: WongLee wrote: Pedro gets unfairly maligned because most of the footage of him in circulation is from his IC run. By then he had stopped caring but could still put together a fantastic match with an elite level worker like Valentine or Muraco. The Pedro who was WWWF king had a three prong attack with high spots, chain wrestling, and convincing brawling. RIP to a truly great worker.

How over was he in NY? I saw him live in Chicago and he was so so. He really wasn't that old when Vince expanded. Why was he a glorified jobber and not used better?
RIP. He always came off as a great guy.I'm going to make a bold statement here but this is what I remember to be true and I remember it pretty well.

Morales was WAY more over in New York than Sammartino. Blasphemy? No, fact. Pedro being Puerto Rican completely changed the demographics of the MSG crowd as well as in the outer borough spot shows. The crowds became overwhelmingly Hispanic and worshipped Pedro like a god. Being Hispanic they would become very emotional when Pedro took a beating. The closest I've ever seen to a full blown riot was when Don Leo Jonathan just kicked the living shit out of Pete at the Garden. The crowd was literally thisclose to storming the ring. They had to rush to a bullshit finish where DLJ put the Mormon Swing on Morales but got dizzy and fell out of the ring to be counted out.

I saw a match at Sunnyside Garden where it was Morales vs. Mr. Fugi for the belt. Fugi was at his sneaky, conniving best and every Latino in that crowd soon rushed and then surrounded the ring. Pedro had to make quick on his comeback or old Harry never would have ribbed again. The Italians thought of Bruno as family. The Hispanic faithful thought of Morales as their symbol of excellence.

When Pedro came back for his IC run he was still hugely over but the demographic had once again changed and the white hot emotion was never shown again.



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