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 Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2021 10:57 am
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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: srossi wrote: It’s Christian Cage.
Ugh.
Ugh indeed.



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cheapseats wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: srossi wrote: It’s Christian Cage.
Ugh.
Ugh indeed.
Why is this bad and also, who were you expecting?  This is better than Kurt Angle or Rob Van Dam, both "hall of fame worthy people".  Unless they brought in CM Punk or a big japanese star, this is as big as it gets.  Would you have rather had Goldberg or another old WCW guy?  You were never getting Cena, or for that matter Austin.  And if you did get Austin, you don't get him for any matches so why bother?  And while people may have been impressed by the name value of Brock Lesnar, they would never sign him based on how he won't do anything he doesn't want to do, money or not.  He likes taking Vince's money to work the days that he chooses.  The thing I don't understand is how guys on the "Permanently Disqualified" list ever get re-cleared by WWE.  Rossi was saying that Christian was bumping in the Royal Rumble, and I had no clue.  So now it's Edge, Christian, and Daniel Bryan that got themselves reinstated.  It's crazy - just means like Punk said, don't trust WWE doctors, use your own.



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Superstar wrote: cheapseats wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: srossi wrote: It’s Christian Cage.
Ugh.
Ugh indeed.
Why is this bad and also, who were you expecting?  This is better than Kurt Angle or Rob Van Dam, both "hall of fame worthy people".  Unless they brought in CM Punk or a big japanese star, this is as big as it gets.  Would you have rather had Goldberg or another old WCW guy?  You were never getting Cena, or for that matter Austin.  And if you did get Austin, you don't get him for any matches so why bother?  And while people may have been impressed by the name value of Brock Lesnar, they would never sign him based on how he won't do anything he doesn't want to do, money or not.  He likes taking Vince's money to work the days that he chooses.  The thing I don't understand is how guys on the "Permanently Disqualified" list ever get re-cleared by WWE.  Rossi was saying that Christian was bumping in the Royal Rumble, and I had no clue.  So now it's Edge, Christian, and Daniel Bryan that got themselves reinstated.  It's crazy - just means like Punk said, don't trust WWE doctors, use your own.

Was Christian "permanently disqualified"?  I know he had injury issues of course, and WWE had to clear him before that Rumble.  But I'm not sure if he was ever as bad as Bryan and Edge with their history of neck and head injuries. 

But WWE clearly dropped the ball here.  He wasn't just a "blast from the past" guy they brought back for a one-off.  I think he went 22 minutes in the Rumble and did the reunion with Edge angle, and there was every expectation that he was signing a long-term deal with them.  The fact that they didn't get that done BEFORE putting him over strong shows you that they're just not on top of things like they used to be. 

They're also underestimating AEW by trying to low-ball guys not thinking they'll leave, and they are all leaving.  This is WCW in 1995.  It takes 1 or 2 guys for the floodgates to open and everyone to realize that they can leave.  You have Sting, Show, and Christian in the span of 3 months all jumping and idiot AEW fans are shitting on it, but this is huge in terms of psychology.  It's become acceptable to go to AEW whether you're an underutilized mid-carder or a legend now, and more will follow.   



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The build up for the surprise was too big for Christian to be the payoff. Even if it was fans heading off into fantasy land with dreams of CM Punk and Brock Lesnar, for the promotion it’s all about setting realistic expectations and then delivering a payoff that exceeds them.

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So much for my prediction.

I still think it would benefit NJPW to have some of there upper level guys cycle through AEW for a few months at a time.



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What did you all think of that "explosive" ending to their PPV last night?

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In a shocking announcement at the end of Impact tonight, Scott D’Amore announced a series of unification title matches. This Saturday at Sacrifice Rich Swann will defend the Impact title against Moose’s TNA title. The winner will then face AEW champ Kenny Omega at the next Impact PPV Rebellion on April 24 titles vs. title. The show ends with Don Callis watching on the monitor speaking to Omega on the phone and saying, “Just as we planned.”  Well I didn’t see that one coming. Not sure how Impact gets out of this. 



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srossi wrote: In a shocking announcement at the end of Impact tonight, Scott D’Amore announced a series of unification title matches. This Saturday at Sacrifice Rich Swann will defend the Impact title against Moose’s TNA title. The winner will then face AEW champ Kenny Omega at the next Impact PPV Rebellion on April 24 titles vs. title. The show ends with Don Callis watching on the monitor speaking to Omega on the phone and saying, “Just as we planned.”  Well I didn’t see that one coming. Not sure how Impact gets out of this. 
For some reason, the Observer website posted this soon after it was taped back in February, with no spoiler warning, including the winner of Swann/Moose match. 



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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: In a shocking announcement at the end of Impact tonight, Scott D’Amore announced a series of unification title matches. This Saturday at Sacrifice Rich Swann will defend the Impact title against Moose’s TNA title. The winner will then face AEW champ Kenny Omega at the next Impact PPV Rebellion on April 24 titles vs. title. The show ends with Don Callis watching on the monitor speaking to Omega on the phone and saying, “Just as we planned.”  Well I didn’t see that one coming. Not sure how Impact gets out of this. 
For some reason, the Observer website posted this soon after it was taped back in February, with no spoiler warning, including the winner of Swann/Moose match.

That sucks.  I never read spoilers from pre-taped shows for this reason.  Wouldn't that also spoil that Omega was going to retain against Moxley at the PPV, even though it didn't happen yet?  Anyway, it was a shock to me.  I don't think the word "unificaction" was ever used for these titles (although it was used for the Impact/TNA match, which makes sense because they shouldn't continue with both titles), but it'll be interesting to see how they do this.  If the match ends in a double-DQ like in the old days, fans will be even more pissed than when the ring didn't explode.



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AEW is spending WAY too much time trying to turn the non-explosion into an angle. Way too many segments trying to cover up an mistake. You don’t need to bring that much attention to it.  And Omega screaming “69 me Don!” is going to become a staple of the Cornette podcast. 



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This is a really muddled and boring episode of Dynamite. Maybe their worst ever. It’s just one big miss so far.



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That ending saved the show.



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broke wrote: That ending saved the show.
Great double-swerve as MJF and Jericho tried to out-heel each other.  They're so fucking good together.  Now we have faction warfare.  Definitely the only good segment of a dreadful show.



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Revolution was a smashing success, grossing over $6 million and becoming the highest-grossing non-WWE PPV since 1999. It also beat many WWE PPVs of the 2000s before they switched to WWE Network.



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AEW Dark Elevation is just another episode of AEW Dark with a different commentary team. I like Dark, and I enjoyed this show, but if you find Dark pointless, then don't watch. Big Show is fine on commentary. I dig the Excalibur/Taz no fucks given commentary. It can be pretty hilarious at times. Schiavone/Big Show are much more straight, and I guess they will take some time to get a good on air rapport going. It fine for a first time out though.

I can't stress how good Tony is on commentary. It sounds completely effortless, even having to take the lead PBP role with all these new-to-TV wrestlers. Taking WWE out of the picture with their over-produced commentators, over the past 20 years we've had to put up with second-tier PBP guys like Mike Tenay, Kevin Kelly, Josh Matthews and Matt Striker on commentary and Tony was sitting at home. Criminal.



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